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Ecofascism on the march in California
Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:14pm
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Governor Moonbeam just signed a democrat bill that would put severe restrictions on water use starting in 2020.  Each household would be limited to 55 gallons per person to day.  If that sounds like a lot, note that for example washing a load of clothes uses 40 gallons, an eight-minute shower uses 17 gallons.  They're also going to REQUIRE in the near future that all houses get at least 50% of their energy from solar panels.   They also passed a big tax increase on car registrations.  There is a statewide initiative to repeal that, and I think it will win.  Sometimes even liberals get tired of too much liberalism.

Ultimately, a lot of this represents liberal hatred of America as it is.  One of the great historic trends that they've never stopped hating is the post-WW2 move of the middle class out to the suburbs ("urban sprawl").  So they've fought a never-ending war on the thing that largely makes it possible - cars.  Gas is very expensive in California due to state taxes.  That, and the new registration fees are designed to make people give up their cars.  The increasing expenses they load on homeowners is designed to drive them out of their homes.

They look nostalgically back at the pre-suburb days:  Everyone was stuck in filthy, crime-ridden urban areas, where  they could be taxed.  A lot lived in apartments - the preferred socialist view of what a habitation should be.  Their lives could be run by big-city democrat political machines.  There were a lot fewer cars, and more government-controlled transportation.
  
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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:39pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Governor Moonbeam just signed a democrat bill that would put severe restrictions on water use starting in 2020.  Each household would be limited to 55 gallons per person to day.  If that sounds like a lot, note that for example washing a load of clothes uses 40 gallons, an eight-minute shower uses 17 gallons.  They're also going to REQUIRE in the near future that all houses get at least 50% of their energy from solar panels.   They also passed a big tax increase on car registrations.  There is a statewide initiative to repeal that, and I think it will win.  Sometimes even liberals get tired of too much liberalism.

Ultimately, a lot of this represents liberal hatred of America as it is.  One of the great historic trends that they've never stopped hating is the post-WW2 move of the middle class out to the suburbs ("urban sprawl").  So they've fought a never-ending war on the thing that largely makes it possible - cars.  Gas is very expensive in California due to state taxes.  That, and the new registration fees are designed to make people give up their cars.  The increasing expenses they load on homeowners is designed to drive them out of their homes.

They look nostalgically back at the pre-suburb days:  Everyone was stuck in filthy, crime-ridden urban areas, where  they could be taxed.  A lot lived in apartments - the preferred socialist view of what a habitation should be.  Their lives could be run by big-city democrat political machines.  There were a lot fewer cars, and more government-controlled transportation.



Well, you dig you own grave by staying in Cailf?? Huh

  

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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:43pm
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What happened with these billions? Grin

Quote:

Four years ago in the midst of a scary, five-year drought — one of the state's driest periods in recorded history — voters eagerly approved a $7.5-billion water bond proposal, Proposition 1. The vote was a lopsided 67% to 33%.


A key selling point was $2.7 billion set aside for additional water storage.
Grin Roll Eyes

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-skelton-california-water-bond-money-20...
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Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:26pm
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Patrick has posted a bunch of lies again.

There is NO SUCH LAW in California that requires individual households use not more than 55 gallons of water per day by 2020.

Nope.

The law signed is aimed at water providers, and guides them to limit overall water consumption to an average of 55 gallons per day per person for the entire water district.

Millions of gallons of water each year are lost to pipeline leaks and other water provider inefficiencies.

The accompanying article explains how just upgrading an old washer to a new more water efficient one would enable a family of four to meet the 55/gal/day/person limit without changing anything else, such as toilets, shower heads, dishwashers.

Surprisingly Patrick didn't also repeat the hysteria on right wing media that people who go over the 55 gallon/day limit will be fined $1,000. That's more bullshit... perhaps he's getting around to spreading that as well.

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Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:54pm
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Useless, the King of Low Information Posters, gets in wrong again.  Grin

From the CA state legislature information site:

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB...

"The bill, until January 1, 2025, would establish 55 gallons per capita daily as the standard for indoor residential water use"
  
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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
Useless, the King of Low Information Posters, gets in wrong again.  Grin

From the CA state legislature information site:

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB...

"The bill, until January 1, 2025, would establish 55 gallons per capita daily as the standard for indoor residential water use"


Patrick2, King of the LNF LIARS, gets it wrong again and again and again.

He wrote in the OP: "Each household would be limited to 55 gallons per person to day."

This is patently FALSE. There is NO limitation on household usage. The law is written as an average for entire water districts. Thusly, some households could use more than 55 gallons per person per day, some could use less.

Furthermore the proposed 55 g/d/p average water usage applies only to indoor water usage. Guidelines for outdoor usage would be determined by studies of landscaping and local climates.

Patrick's claim, "Each household would be limited to 55 gallons per person to day." is therefore FALSE and FRAUDULENT.

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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:14pm
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Ulysses wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
Patrick2, King of the LNF LIARS, gets it wrong again and again and again.

He wrote in the OP: "Each household would be limited to 55 gallons per person to day."

This is patently FALSE. There is NO limitation on household usage. The law is written as an average for entire water districts. Thusly, some households could use more than 55 gallons per person per day, some could use less.



Total fiction.  Useless, like all libs, struggles to replace reality with the fantasy world whirling in his brain.   Grin
  
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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 11:13pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
Total fiction.  Useless, like all libs, struggles to replace reality with the fantasy world whirling in his brain.   Grin


Paddy doubles down on his lies.

Big surprise.

Maybe Paddy can't read.

Maybe he can read, but doesn't comprehend what he reads.

Maybe he comprehends what he reads, but is just a damn liar and can't help himself.


  

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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 11:18pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
They look nostalgically back at the pre-suburb days:  Everyone was stuck in filthy, crime-ridden urban areas, where  they could be taxed.


Suburbs can't be taxed?
  

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Re: Ecofascism on the march in California
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 11:18pm:
Suburbs can't be taxed?


No, they couldn't. Everything was free and easy in Paddy's fantasy world that never existed.

  

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