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Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm
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Pardoning of Alice Johnson and seeking out similar stories for additional pardons.

Taking a stance on the lifting of the Federal ban on marijuana.

Dropping a bombshell on the G7 by proposing a removal of all tariffs and subsidies? All of them! Lol. Gangster.

Whoo-boy. He's got a lot of ground to make up, but he's rolling right now.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:34pm
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Indeed.

A welcome change from the focus on immigration and protectionism. And the stance on weed is awesome. This issue has the potential to make him a historic president. Of course, one wonders if he is just trying to piss off Jeff Sessions.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
Pardoning of Alice Johnson and seeking out similar stories for additional pardons.

Taking a stance on the lifting of the Federal ban on marijuana.

Dropping a bombshell on the G7 by proposing a removal of all tariffs and subsidies? All of them! Lol. Gangster.

Whoo-boy. He's got a lot of ground to make up, but he's rolling right now.



Other than the pardon(Very small), the rest is just BS right?

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:56pm
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Luther wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
Other than the pardon(Very small), the rest is just BS right?

I don't know. And I don't mean "I don't know" as if I'm saying it's definitely something more.

I really don't know. Trump is a narcissist, and if he receives positive response from these sorts of positions, I could see him making more of a push.

We'll see. At least he's saying it. Not many presidents have even dreamed of saying such positive things about marijuana laws and the removal of all tariffs.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:34pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
Dropping a bombshell on the G7 by proposing a removal of all tariffs and subsidies? All of them! Lol. Gangster.

Really?


Quote:
Trump Threatens To End Trade With United States' Closest Allies

President Donald Trump said Saturday at the Group of Seven summit in Quebec, Canada, that the United States would “stop trading” with some of its closest allies unless they change what he believes to be unfair trade policies.

Speaking to reporters at the annual G-7 meeting, the president said that totally eliminating trade barriers between the nations would be “the ultimate thing” and “that’s the way it should be.” He called many current tariffs on U.S. goods and services “ridiculous.”

“We’re like the piggy bank that everybody’s robbing ― and that ends,” the president said.

He later said, “It’s going to stop, or we’ll stop trading with them. And that’s a very profitable answer, if we have to do it.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-end-trade-united-165446873.html


So actually what he said was, in effect, do what we want on trade or we stop trading with you (which of course is just complete bullshit like everything else he says). He also happened to say no tariffs would be "the ultimate thing". Just give him what he wants. Again, bullshit from an unfiltered mouth.


I'm looking for how what he said squares up with how you are portraying it. It's like walking into a nuke summit and saying "we just want a world without nukes, why can't we all hold hands and sing Kumbaya?" All while massively ramping nuke output.

Given Trump's ACTIONS why should we believe any of the bullshit he peddles? Honest question. Where do you get that what he said wasn't just some dumbass side comment for a headline? I'm not sure he thought it through even that far. He's just stream of consciousness with 90% of his nonsense. It does NOT square with his actions before and his threats at the G7.
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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
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Decriminalizing weed..???..   You have my attention..
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
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Vypr wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
Really?



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-end-trade-united-165446873.html


So actually what he said was, in effect, do what we want on trade or we stop trading with you (which of course is just complete bullshit like everything else he says). He also happened to say no tariffs would be "the ultimate thing". Just give him what he wants. Again, bullshit from an unfiltered mouth.


I'm looking for how what he said squares up with how you are portraying it. It's like walking into a nuke summit and saying "we just want a world without nukes, why can't we all hold hands and sing Kumbaya?" All while massively ramping nuke output.

Given Trump's ACTIONS why should we believe any of the bullshit he peddles? Honest question. Where do you get that what he said wasn't just some dumbass side comment for a headline? It does NOT square with his actions before and his threats at the G7.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-dropping-all-tariffs-trade-barrier...

This is the article I first saw.

I'd like to see some more information dropped in, to see what the chronology of when and how things were said. More context.

This seems like a case where the two alternate dimensions are laid clear in our partisan society and with our highly biased media outlets.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:56pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:43pm:
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-dropping-all-tariffs-trade-barrier...

This is the article I first saw.

I'd like to see some more information dropped in, to see what the chronology of when and how things were said. More context.

This seems like a case where the two alternate dimensions are laid clear in our partisan society and with our highly biased media outlets.

Yeah, you can argue about how the different sources emphasize different aspects of what he said, and that's the partisan effect, but he SAID it. It completely undercuts any spouting by Trump about "eliminating all tariffs". He just talks shit. You have to go on actions. Actions so far:
1. Tarriffs on our closest allies.
2. Backing off on the threat of China tarriffs after they loaned Trump Inc $500 million and awarded Ivanka all her trademarks.
3. Let ZTE back into the American market after all our intelligence services said they were a security risk, also apparently tied to the nice loan the Chinese gave his business.
4. Re-threatening China tarriffs after an uproar from the right, but actually hitting Canada, the EU and Mexico instead. That was funny. Kind of a sad sort of funny.

Those are ACTIONS.

His other interesting WORDS were he wanted Russia back in the G7, which is funny considering how much they have done to deserve that privilege.

Again, Trump is stream of consciousness. His words are practically meaningless. He dwells in a stupor of his own making, where the only things he believes are what he wants to believe. But he also has the instinct to know that his ever shifting beliefs need to align in at least general terms with a segment of his supporters, preferably the most disaffected who are willing to take his bullshit at face value.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:01pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:43pm:
I'd like to see some more information dropped in, to see what the chronology of when and how things were said. More context.

You're easily smart enough to know chronology doesn't matter. Context doesn't matter. He could say something on Monday and tweet the opposite on Tuesday morning after some evening phone call from Hannity the Trump whisperer. He just says ANYTHING. He has only the barest control and no filter to speak of. It just rolls out. He's a narcissist with attention deficient disorder.
  

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Re: Credit where it's due: Trump on a roll right now (Pardons, Weed, Tariffs)
Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:07pm
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Vypr wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:56pm:
Yeah, you can argue about how the different sources emphasize different aspects of what he said, and that's the partisan effect, but he SAID it. It completely undercuts any spouting by Trump about "eliminating all tariffs". He just talks shit. You have to go on actions. Actions so far:
1. Tarriffs on our closest allies.
2. Backing off on the threat of China tarriffs after they loaned Trump Inc $500 million and awarded Ivanka all her trademarks.
3. Let ZTE back into the American market after all our intelligence services said they were a security risk, also apparently tied to the nice loan the Chinese gave his business.
4. Re-threatening China tarriffs after an uproar from the right, but actually hitting Canada, the EU and Mexico instead. That was funny. Kind of a sad sort of funny.

Those are ACTIONS.

His other interesting WORDS were he wanted Russia back in the G7, which is funny considering how much they have done to deserve that privilege.

Again, Trump is stream of consciousness. His words are practically meaningless. He dwells in a stupor of his own making, where the only things he believes are what he wants to believe. But he also has the instinct to know that his ever shifting beliefs need to align in at least general terms with a segment of his supporters, preferably the most disaffected who are willing to take his bullshit at face value.


Vypr wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
You're easily smart enough to know chronology doesn't matter. Context doesn't matter. He could say something on Monday and tweet the opposite on Tuesday morning after some evening phone call from Hannity the Trump whisperer. He just says ANYTHING. He has only the barest control and no filter to speak of. It just rolls out. He's a narcissist with attention deficient disorder.

Ok. I'm gonna move on from this thread. Perhaps delete it. I don't want somebody to have a stroke because of something I wrote haphazardly.
  

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