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Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
Jun 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm
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Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’

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SINGAPORE — By Tuesday afternoon here, it was as if the signatures flourished by President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un on their joint statement had begun to fade already beneath the hot light of criticism. Analysts made the point repeatedly that the “summit of the century” had come and gone with very little to show. At least, not for Trump.

Sure, there had been a lot of tough talk beforehand. A senior White House staffer reportedly said the Trump Doctrine is, "We're America, Bitch." The optics and drama had drawn the superstars of television news to this island city state and, for a few days, gave the impression that Trump might be able to return home with one, just one, major foreign policy victory.

But when the document was seen (shown to the press by Trump when he showed off his signature) it was very hard to claim that the omission from the summit declaration of the hitherto sacred formula “CVID”—complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization—was anything other than a huge concession to Kim Jong Un. He loathes the words that would actually compel him to surrender his arsenal.

Instead, Kim would only sign on to wording that says his country "commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula," which is by any standard pretty tentative language.

Until this week, CVID was supposed to be sine qua non: the sanctions would not be lifted until that was achieved. But at his rambling press conference after his morning of diplomacy, Trump even revealed the extent of the compromise he’s willing to make: “Complete” has become, maybe, “20 percent.”

That part of the press conference transcript is worth reading not only for its substance but also for its incoherence. (To be sure, Trump said he had not slept for 25 hours, but that probably was not the only reason Kim remarked earlier in the day that the whole scene was like something out of “science fiction,” or, perhaps in better English, that it was all pretty surreal.)

“I had an uncle who was a great professor for 40 years at MIT. I used to discuss nukes with him all the time.”
— President Donald Trump

Trump admitted he’d been told complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization could take 15 years, and he obviously couldn’t square that with Kim’s demand for sanctions relief soon.

“A 15-year process? Assuming you wanted to do it quickly, I don’t believe that,” said Trump. “I think whoever wrote that is wrong. There will be a point at which when you are 20 percent through you can’t go back.”

How does Trump know this? “I had an uncle who was a great professor for 40 years at MIT. I used to discuss nukes with him all the time. He was a great expert. A great brilliant genius. Dr. John Trump. MIT sent me a book on my uncle. We used to talk about nuclear. You talk about a complex subject. It is not just get rid of the — rid of the nukes. When you hit a certain point, you cannot go back.”

How long will that take? “We don’t know, but it will be quickly.”

At other times Trump resorted to the language of a declaration as signed by Kim and South Korea’s President Moon Jae-in at the truce village of Panmunjom on April 27: “We are asking for the establishment of a new U.S.-DPRK relationship,” and when it came to “verification” of whatever the North Koreans were doing to get rid of their nukes and missiles, “it will be verified as we develop a lot of trust.”

Oh yes, Trump said, U.S. and international inspectors would be there to be sure Kim was living up to his word, but Trump seemed to have every expectation he would. “He [Kim] was very firm, in fact, he really wants to do this.”

(One thinks back to that time George W. Bush said after meeting Russia’s Vladimir Putin, “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy . . . I was able to get a sense of his soul.”)

In the real world, by any estimate, and with complete goodwill, given that the North Korean reactor at Yongbyon 60 miles north of Pyongyang has fabricated 40 to 60 warheads and the best spy satellites are incapable of revealing what else the North has going at facilities in caves and tunnels around the country, dismantling and verification are going to go very slowly.

Just as important as the sanction issue is the future of the 28,500 American troops in South Korea, many of them now headquartered at a sprawling, expanding base about 40 miles southwest of Seoul. “I want to bring our soldiers back home,” said Trump, reviving a mantra that he recited often during his presidential campaign. But, he added, “that’s not part of the equation right now.”

Then, almost as an afterthought, he added, “We will be stopping the war games” – that is, “unless or until” it’s clear North Korea is not denuking “as it should.”

That announcement might be sensational considering that North Korea has objected strongly every time American and South Korean troops engage in joint exercises, most recently “Max Thunder” that featured warplanes from both countries zipping above the South for 10 days in May.

  

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 4:25pm
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Condos for everyone
  

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Condos for everyone


That would be an EXCELLENT selling point for Trump properties in NK:

"Trade your canons for a condo!"

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:19am
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Trump could be Kims gimp.  If this actually happens it would be a great thing.

Turn off the partisanship and actually root for what be good for all off us instead of your team for a change.
  

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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 4:13pm:
Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
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Lomelis wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:19am:
Trump could be Kims gimp.  If this actually happens it would be a great thing.

Turn off the partisanship and actually root for what be good for all off us instead of your team for a change.


Kim could get rid of all his nukes tomorrow, we could bring home all our troops, and NK and SK could re-unite like East and West Germany.

Would it make ANY difference in your daily life?
  

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:56am
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Ulysses wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:53am:
Kim could get rid of all his nukes tomorrow, we could bring home all our troops, and NK and SK could re-unite like East and West Germany.

Would it make ANY difference in your daily life?


Yes.  Less potential for war and billions less in taxes being wasted over there.
  

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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 4:13pm:
Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
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Ulysses wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:53am:
Kim could get rid of all his nukes tomorrow, we could bring home all our troops, and NK and SK could re-unite like East and West Germany.

Would it make ANY difference in your daily life?

I would like to see us bring all our troops home from Europe too
  

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Re: Here’s Why Trump Looks Like Kim’s ‘Bitch’
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RWB wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 2:02am:
I would like to see us bring all our troops home from Europe too


They are needed in Europe, to safeguard those precious cheeses.
  

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