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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 11:43am
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If you gave Kim a couple of nice properties in America, a townhouse in Mayfair, a bogus diplomatic job, immunity from prosecution and a hefty income, you’d have a free, Democratic NK in 6 months.  Probably unified with SK.
  

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #11 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 12:00pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:16am:
I can not believe that so many of you are so oblivious of your dual standards on this issue.  You and others were trying to point out that Trumps belligerent attitude towards NK would lead us to war.  Now it is his efforts at peace that will lead us to war.  It is simply amusing to watch the change of course mid stream.

News broke but it was fixed. Wink
  

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #12 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:32pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:13am:
Neville Chamberlain, 1938, after meeting with Hitler:
"My good friends, this is the second time there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Now I recommend you go home, and sleep quietly in your beds."

Donald Trump, today, after meeting with Kim:
"Before taking office people were assuming that we were going to War with North Korea. President Obama said that North Korea was our biggest and most dangerous problem. No longer - sleep well tonight!"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006839007492308992

With a nod to Bert, now I will admit that my head is exploding...


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There is NO comparison whatsoever between Trump and Neville Chamberlain!    Cheesy

Chamberlain .. was so UNLIKE Trump and very very timid, and very naive that almost bordered on being irresponsible!  Sad

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #13 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:37pm
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stu_gatze wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:32pm:
Dear FC, .. are you crazy?


You don't find it odd that Trump calls Kim "honorable" and tells us we can sleep easily tonight?  I don't think we're on the eve of war with NK, so this isn't a direct equivalence.  But it's wild that Trump is completely unaware of Chamberlain's infamous quote.

And be honest.  If Obama had told us the NK dictator was honorable and trustworthy, and told us we could sleep easy, you'd be posting the Chamberlain quote with your biggest fonts and your yellowest highlights.
  

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #14 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:48pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
You don't find it odd that Trump calls Kim "honorable" and tells us we can sleep easily tonight?  I don't think we're on the eve of war with NK, so this isn't a direct equivalence.  But it's wild that Trump is completely unaware of Chamberlain's infamous quote.

And be honest.  If Obama had told us the NK dictator was honorable and trustworthy, and told us we could sleep easy, you'd be posting the Chamberlain quote with your biggest fonts and your yellowest highlights.


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Sorry, .. but they are not.  Cheesy

Trump was NOT taken in by Kim, .. it's just that AFTER Trump got his agreement, he is only trying to be nice about the meeting with Kim, that's all.
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You humor me with your comments about my font and highlighter, .. thank you!   Smiley   Grin
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 2:41pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:13am:
Neville Chamberlain, 1938, after meeting with Hitler:
"My good friends, this is the second time there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Now I recommend you go home, and sleep quietly in your beds."

Donald Trump, today, after meeting with Kim:
"Before taking office people were assuming that we were going to War with North Korea. President Obama said that North Korea was our biggest and most dangerous problem. No longer - sleep well tonight!"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006839007492308992

With a nod to Bert, now I will admit that my head is exploding...


Neville Chamberlain had crushing sanctions on Germany? Neville Chamberlain had a military base in Poland? Neville Chamberlain had over 30,000 troops in Poland? The population of Germany was starving? Hitler couldn't afford to fly to London for talks?

The two situations are exactly the same.

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Reply #16 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:23pm
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Stu and Bert, you have both demonstrated your skill at slaying straw men.  Congrats.
  

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #17 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:02pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
You don't find it odd that Trump calls Kim "honorable" and tells us we can sleep easily tonight?  I don't think we're on the eve of war with NK, so this isn't a direct equivalence.  But it's wild that Trump is completely unaware of Chamberlain's infamous quote.


I don't give a shit if Trump calls Kim honeypie and wakes up the next morning with his head firmly cuddled between Kim's tremendous manboobs.   Whatever it takes.  And perhaps it takes a narcissist like Trump to speak a narcissist like Kim's language.  Because baby steps towards potentially normalized relations with South Korea and the rest of the world would work out tremendously for the North Korean people.

We were never in danger of war with North Korea. 

Is contorting Trump's rhetoric to say we're not in danger of going to war with a country we were never in danger of going to war with to resemble Chamberlain's statement the only example in history you can find of someone spouting words like Chamberlain's?  Neville and Donald are the only two people who've ever said "Don't worry people of my nation.  You're safe?"

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And be honest.  If Obama had told us the NK dictator was honorable and trustworthy, and told us we could sleep easy, you'd be posting the Chamberlain quote with your biggest fonts and your yellowest highlights.


Sounds like a great rational for behaving like a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle draggers.  Carry on!

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Re: Trump = Chamberlain
Reply #18 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:05pm
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"I don't give a shit if Trump calls Kim honeypie and wakes up the next morning with his head firmly cuddled between Kim's tremendous manboobs."

That's equally hilarious and disturbing at the same time. An exquisite balance hard to achieve.
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:38pm
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Queshank wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Whatever it takes.  And perhaps it takes a narcissist like Trump to speak a narcissist like Kim's language.  Because baby steps towards potentially normalized relations with South Korea and the rest of the world would work out tremendously for the North Korean people.


... or enable a despot to solidify his grip on power.  And rocket-man is feeling the power.

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I contorted nothing.  All I did was spew pepsi out of my nose when I read his tweet.  I find it unintentionally hilarious.
  

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