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American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Jul 7th, 2018 at 4:16pm
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"A school project for English on Patriotism vs. Nationalism in America and the problems from both. This video is merely a project and is not meant to offend anyone, but rather to spark conversation."


I thought this to be thought provoking 

  

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Re: American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:23pm
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Well said. And I know that the second I endorse this, those opposed to my views will then label this in some liberal or Left way.

Patriotism is being proud to be an American.
Nationalism is believing that America is better than everyone else.

When you conservatives talk, I hear Nationalism, and suddenly my pride in our country decreases.

How do you see it?
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm
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I’d agree with that Freon. When I think nationalist my knee jerk thought would be the national socialist workers party type thinking. A bad connotation. Or the ussr, Cuba, n Korea.

Patriot, has a positive connotation. People seeking freedom. More libertarian. Smaller govt. more self reliance.
  
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Re: American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:30pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
Well said. And I know that the second I endorse this, those opposed to my views will then label this in some liberal or Left way.

Patriotism is being proud to be an American.
Nationalism is believing that America is better than everyone else.

When you conservatives talk, I hear Nationalism, and suddenly my pride in our country decreases.

How do you see it?

What if facts show that America is indeed better than everyone else?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-...
  
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Re: American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:37pm
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I’m definitely a nationalist. The rest of the world can go hang.
  


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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:41pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
Well said. And I know that the second I endorse this, those opposed to my views will then label this in some liberal or Left way.

Patriotism is being proud to be an American.
Nationalism is believing that America is better than everyone else.

When you conservatives talk, I hear Nationalism, and suddenly my pride in our country decreases.

How do you see it?

Yes. I feel the same way.  When I saw this video, I suddenly thought about the threads Patty started about how conservative are more patriotic than liberals.  This video debunks his belief of what patriotism is.  He is a nationalist.
  

Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, Trump won’t go to his funeral very, very soon.


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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:43pm
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Josie wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:30pm:
What if facts show that America is indeed better than everyone else?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-...

If you believe that, then you are definitely a nationalist.
  

Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, Trump won’t go to his funeral very, very soon.


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Reply #7 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:47pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
If you believe that, then you are definitely a nationalist.

If wanting to protect the borders and believing this is the greatest country in the world means I'm a nationalist so be it ...
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:50pm
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Does this mean liberals believe America is equal to Somalia, Uruguay, Venezuela and other maggot countries?
  


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Re: American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:00am
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Hmmm. If we are better than everyone else, than what follows is that our citizens are better than everyone else's. And if they are better, then we can do anything we want in the world, because being better gives us the moral authority to bring the rest of the world up to our level.

What a bunch of horse manure.

Get over yourselves.

You think you are better? That is just the biggest laugh possible. The reality is that you are massively foolish, falling for the same self-ingratiating garbage that every major civilization in history fell for just before they fell.

Better? No wonder you can't be reasoned with. You believe you are 'the superior race'.
  
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