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Reply #30 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:32pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
stop showing gross photos. I'd rather see thugs packing

I know you would.  Better fits your narrative.
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Reply #31 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 10:58pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:32pm:
I know you would.  Better fits your narrative.

Grin That wasn't my intent, but that was good. You got me there.

  

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Reply #32 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:45am
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Jasmine wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
I’m definitely a nationalist. The rest of the world can go hang.




I think the term American Exceptionalism is where I stand. I do believe we are the greatest country in the World.
  
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Reply #33 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:51am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Then how can you say "Believing that America is the greatest country in the world doesn't equate to believing that Americans are superior to all other people."

If you are nationalistic, then you DO believe Americans are better. Or maybe you define nationalism differently.

You seem to be contradicting yourself, or, as you say, I may just be stupid, but either way, my intent is to understand. Please humor my idiocy.




Believing that we live in the greatest country in the world does not mean that Americans are better than anyone else. We are all human and prone to be as good as bad as anyone else. 

  Got to love a good strawman tho.. Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #34 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 5:43am
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Jasmine wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
I’m definitely a nationalist. The rest of the world can go hang.



Just like a so called conservative in Lib dominated Hawaii?

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Reply #35 - yesterday at 11:07am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 4:16pm:


"A school project for English on Patriotism vs. Nationalism in America and the problems from both. This video is merely a project and is not meant to offend anyone, but rather to spark conversation."


I thought this to be thought provoking 


Bump!
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Reply #36 - yesterday at 11:26am
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Wadsworth wrote yesterday at 11:07am:
Bump!


this is a bit of a stupid, hair splitting discussion...the same people who seem to be advocating for their definition, that nationalism means the people fundamentally believe" they are better than everyone else"...are the exact same people that use the term "racist" to apply to anyone and everyone who disagrees with  them or states a fact they don't want to hear

racism is clearly defined as a belief that a race is fundamentally and inherently better than another race, at arguably a genetic level...that's it...

when the gov of maine said our crime is mostly made up of minorities who cross the border into maine, from other places...and he held up last years arrests which dramatically underlined and proved his point...he was immediately called a racist....now he may be...but he may not be...

would you say socialists are bad...I can name a whole bunch of socialist dictators who under the name of socialism rose to power and wiped out millions...my guess is...and it's not a guess because I've seen it argued here...that those were not really socialists, they just used the term to seize power and appeal to their people....OK...I'll buy that....

but when it comes to nationalism, they same people will claim oh no, hitler was a nationalist...but he wasn't a socialist...
yet in his own book he claimed to be a national socialist...basically a socialist with a race component...

would you say you are witnessing nationalism at every world cup soccer event? Or is that different too?
  
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Reply #37 - yesterday at 12:21pm
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petep wrote yesterday at 11:26am:
this is a bit of a stupid, hair splitting discussion...the same people who seem to be advocating for their definition, that nationalism means the people fundamentally believe" they are better than everyone else"...are the exact same people that use the term "racist" to apply to anyone and everyone who disagrees with  them or states a fact they don't want to hear

racism is clearly defined as a belief that a race is fundamentally and inherently better than another race, at arguably a genetic level...that's it...

when the gov of maine said our crime is mostly made up of minorities who cross the border into maine, from other places...and he held up last years arrests which dramatically underlined and proved his point...he was immediately called a racist....now he may be...but he may not be...

would you say socialists are bad...I can name a whole bunch of socialist dictators who under the name of socialism rose to power and wiped out millions...my guess is...and it's not a guess because I've seen it argued here...that those were not really socialists, they just used the term to seize power and appeal to their people....OK...I'll buy that....

but when it comes to nationalism, they same people will claim oh no, hitler was a nationalist...but he wasn't a socialist...
yet in his own book he claimed to be a national socialist...basically a socialist with a race component...

would you say you are witnessing nationalism at every world cup soccer event? Or is that different too?

If you act like a racist, then you are a racist.
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Re: American Patriotism Vs. Nationalism: A school Videoessay
Reply #38 - yesterday at 12:34pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 4:16pm:


"A school project for English on Patriotism vs. Nationalism in America and the problems from both. This video is merely a project and is not meant to offend anyone, but rather to spark conversation."


I thought this to be thought provoking 


sounds like Howard Zinn's view of America!
  

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Reply #39 - yesterday at 12:37pm
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Wadsworth wrote yesterday at 12:21pm:
If you act like a racist, then you are a racist.


How does one act like a racist. Maybe by participating and associating with others who denounce other races? Would it be racist if you did it one time, over a year, 10 years or more?

What would prove you are not a racist? The racial make up of your staff?
  
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