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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #30 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 2:34pm
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petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 2:09pm:
This may help

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/09/23/what-di...

The entire basis of the founding principles of our country has its roots here.

It’s like you are trying to debate aeronautics without knowing gravity and forces exist.


Typically ignorant response.

The Declaration of Independence is a well written and fine document. But it has no legal authority. The Constitution is the legal document by which this nation is supposed to be governed.

And the Bill of Rights are simply the first ten amendments to the Constitution, which was designed to be a living document, changeable by The People as they see fit.
  

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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #31 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:00pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:51am:
I love it when people argue we are a republic and not a democracy. It's cute.


IF The United States was a democracy Hillary would be president, do you think she thinks it cute   Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #32 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:13pm
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USyeah wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:00pm:
IF The United States was a democracy Hillary would be president, do you think she thinks it cute   Roll Eyes

I'm not sure that follows. She lost the election.
  

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Reply #33 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:25pm
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Ulysses wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
Typically ignorant response.

The Declaration of Independence is a well written and fine document. But it has no legal authority. The Constitution is the legal document by which this nation is supposed to be governed.

And the Bill of Rights are simply the first ten amendments to the Constitution, which was designed to be a living document, changeable by The People as they see fit.


So do you believe any and all rights you have as a human flow from other people in government?

Are there any rights you feel you should be entitled to? Any?
  
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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #34 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:38pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:13pm:
I'm not sure that follows. She lost the election.


simple, can you name a democracy where the candidate that gets the most votes loses the election?
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:04pm
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USyeah wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
simple, can you name a democracy where the candidate that gets the most votes loses the election?


Switzerland is probably one of the only direct democracies in the world.
  
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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #36 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:43pm
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USyeah wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
simple, can you name a democracy where the candidate that gets the most votes loses the election?

Sure. The United States.

I think you might be drawing too fine a line on what democracy means.
  

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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #37 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:18am
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:40am:
Denying reality is dangerous, but so strange coming from someone who doesn't understand why the monuments were erected. Look there and who may be able to understand why they should be moved to a museum.


Taking down those monuments IS a denial of reality; such despicable revisionism is no different than the purges of Stalin. And I don't believe that you have a clue why those monuments were erected.
  

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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #38 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:43am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Sure. The United States.

I think you might be drawing too fine a line on what democracy means.


I think the correct way to say it is that we are not a direct democracy.

While we have tended more toward a direct democracy in the last 100+ years (the 17th amendment being one of the more despicable examples), we were established as a representative republic with direct democratic power being diluted by multiple layers of checks and balances.




  

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Re: shhh - don't let the children hear that word, or republicans disdain for democracy
Reply #39 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:44am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:18am:
Taking down those monuments IS a denial of reality; such despicable revisionism is no different than the purges of Stalin. And I don't believe that you have a clue why those monuments were erected.


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