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Reply #110 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:01am
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Trump to meet security officials on Afghanistan as concerns mount about US withdrawal

Washington (CNN)President Trump is expected to meet with his top national security advisers on Friday to review a US-Taliban peace plan that could end America's longest running war -- but could also trigger a surrender for the US and a betrayal of the Afghan government, critics say.

Trump is expected to meet at his Bedminster golf resort with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton, according to two sources familiar with the planning. Several defense officials tell CNN that Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford are expected to be present.

The major topic will be Afghanistan and the plan that Taliban negotiator, Zalmay Khalilizad, has been working on for months to end the conflict there, according to two sources familiar with the planning...

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Re: Pompeo, Afghanistan, and the Peace Process
Reply #111 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 3:46pm
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Demos wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
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Interesting to see where this goes from here, particularly if we intend to take a backseat in any negotiations.


i hope we do - it must be their deal...we can facilitate...but it must be theirs to own...
  
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Reply #112 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 3:56pm
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The reasons for US involvement in Afghanistan remain.  While the Taliban appear to be mostly interested in setting up an islamofascist state only, the issue for the US is whether they let al Qaeda reestablish their bases there for their attacks against the west.  While the US has proven unable/unwilling to eliminate islamofascism there, that doesn't mean the US can't at relatively low cost disrupt the return of al Qaeda, even if the price is continuous low-level warfare.
  
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Reply #113 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 4:24pm
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patrick2 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
While the Taliban appear to be mostly interested in setting up an islamofascist state only,...

That's what they've been interested in since the 1990's. AQ was allowed to establish bases there, because it meant receiving funding and support from bin Laden - both of which the Taliban needed at the time. And we had been in talks with the Taliban to turn over bin Laden and/or kick him out (Source).

Twenty years later, our negotiations still involve securing assurances from the Taliban to not ally itself with AQ and/or prevent it from establishing bases within Taliban held territory.

Of course, that's only one part of that story, because AQ can always hide out in Pakistan, where it has received the support of the ISI, and easily infiltrate Afghanistan.

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While the US has proven unable/unwilling to eliminate islamofascism there, that doesn't mean the US can't at relatively low cost disrupt the return of al Qaeda, even if the price is continuous low-level warfare.

Meanwhile, AQ establishes bases in Pakistan and continues its various activities around the globe. Maybe continuous low-level warfare on the ground in Afghanistan isn't the best strategy here, and we should find other ways to disrupt their actions/plans.

  
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Reply #114 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 1:39pm
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Inside Afghanistan: What Life Is Like, in Afghans' Own Words

Afghans celebrate 100 years of independence on Monday, but you likely won't see this milestone in many of the news headlines. Instead, the big story will more than likely be a political one. Who is going to win the coming presidential election? Are peace talks between the U.S. and the Taliban progressing?

Or the story will be about the economy. GDP per capita (PPP) in 2018 was about $2,000 (in international dollars) and the economy grew at an average of 1%.

All of these topics are incredibly important factors to the current climate in Afghanistan -- in the leadup to Election Day in late September and beyond. But one thing is always missing: How are people's lives going in Afghanistan?

Since 2005, Gallup has been collecting data on this topic every year. To answer this question, Gallup asks Afghans about their happiness, wellbeing, personal safety, employment opportunities, and satisfaction with their communities and institutions.

Starting today, and through the presidential election in late September, Gallup will publish at least an article a week that reports on what Afghans are thinking on all these topics...

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Reply #115 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 1:46pm
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The draft Afghan peace plan, explained

KABUL — The proposed Afghan peace deal presented Friday to President Trump by the administration’s top peace negotiator would accomplish the president’s major goal of beginning to withdraw thousands of U.S. forces from the country, after nearly 18 years of fighting and just over 2,400 U.S. personnel killed.

In return, Taliban insurgents would agree to cut ties with al-Qaeda and prevent it from operating or carrying out activities in areas of Afghanistan under Taliban control. This commitment is something U.S. military officials have said is important to help prevent other extremist groups from using Afghanistan as a springboard for attacks against American interests in the region.

Beyond that, however, the agreement as described by U.S. officials leaves several key issues unaddressed, others not yet explicitly endorsed by the Taliban, and still others to be worked out at future meetings between Taliban and Afghan leaders that have not yet been confirmed or announced...

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Re: Pompeo, Afghanistan, and the Peace Process
Reply #116 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 5:08pm
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Fareed Zacharia's show Sunday was a bit of a let down. I generally agree with him but he was promoting keeping troop levels in the thousands to maintain security. Isn't that what we've been doing for 15 years? The Taliban want concessions of troop draw downs up front in exchange for promises to behave. We all know what's gonna happen as soon as we leave, why post-pone the inevitable?

Well, maybe not inevitable but I'd bet on the Afghan government collapsing within a year.
  

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Reply #117 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 5:10pm
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If the task is "peacekeeping", then the proper peacekeeping forces are the UN.
  

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Reply #118 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:47pm
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Afghanistan Talks Resuming at Crucial Stage

KABUL—U.S.-Taliban negotiations to end America’s longest military engagement overseas entered a crucial stage on Wednesday, as Washington’s special envoy arrived in the Gulf state of Qatar for talks both sides hope will lead quickly to a deal...

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Re: Pompeo, Afghanistan, and the Peace Process
Reply #119 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 4:40pm
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Is the Afghanistan Deal a Good One?

According to teases leaked by the American negotiating team, it appears that an interim Afghanistan peace deal may be in the works between Washington and the Taliban. Details are far from clear to date. But the main contours of any agreement seem to be a renouncing of extremists by the Taliban, the withdrawal of several thousand American and NATO troops, together with an indefinite partial ceasefire, or at least a sustained reduction in violence by all parties. If that is indeed the deal—it’s not yet clear if the ceasefire would happen early on, as it must for the idea to make any sense from a U.S. and Afghan government perspective—there may be promise to the concept, provided that not only the Taliban but the Pakistani government support it as well. These initial steps would be followed by negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government over some future type of power-sharing, after which the preponderance of the remaining U.S. and other foreign forces would leave the country as well. It is crucial that the remaining U.S. forces not withdraw until a power-sharing arrangement has been well-established...

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