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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #20 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:12pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Instead, the overwhelming number of posts are what might be charitably characterized as low-brow attempts at wit.  There's also an increasing use of cuss words. 

But the answer to the thread title is pretty clear - they usually have no facts and no arguments.

We haven't done a good enough job being the kind of board that would attract the class of left liberal you say you want.

But we are very good at pulling out the worst in each other.
  

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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #21 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:35pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
We haven't done a good enough job being the kind of board that would attract the class of left liberal you say you want.

But we are very good at pulling out the worst in each other.


I don’t know. I think you do a good job at being in the middle, fair minded. Certainly you are not an ideologue

Some of the subjects here are very polarizing. And it draws out the ideologues in each of us.

The extreme ends of the spectrum probably dominate here. In terms of number of posts. Maybe Stu at one end, wads at the other.

It makes things interesting.

I’m probably closely aligned with you, as I’m a big FEE supporter.

But I can get pissy on certain subjects like firearms.
  
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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #22 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 5:06am
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Instead, the overwhelming number of posts are what might be charitably characterized as low-brow attempts at wit.  There's also an increasing use of cuss words. 

But the answer to the thread title is pretty clear - they usually have no facts and no arguments.



Why do so called Conservatives(Pat) run from debate on whether Trump is a RINO or not? Grin

He doesn't want that debate Wink
  

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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #23 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:00am
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Luther wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 5:06am:
Why do so called Conservatives(Pat) run from debate on whether Trump is a RINO or not? Grin

He doesn't want that debate Wink


I've never seen anyone run from that...I've never seen trump as a conservative and I've never believed he ran on that platform...He's attacked establishment dems and repubs equally...I think that is why he was elected...people sick of the establishment on both sides..

whether he turns out to be fiscally conservative remains yet to be seen - most I know who are conservatives did not like the last budget that he signed off on...he supports the 2nd...but very libertarian on other issues...




  
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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #24 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:04am
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petep wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
I don’t know. I think you do a good job at being in the middle, fair minded. Certainly you are not an ideologue


Well, I'd like to agree but I think there are those who would disagree and say I am far right, or far left. Or that I am a lowly troll with nothing to add that is not insulting.

I would say we have a number of quality posters here. But they don't post nearly as much as the rabble.

So the board is reduced to the lowest common dominator more often than not.

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Some of the subjects here are very polarizing. And it draws out the ideologues in each of us.

The extreme ends of the spectrum probably dominate here. In terms of number of posts. Maybe Stu at one end, wads at the other.

It makes things interesting.

I’m probably closely aligned with you, as I’m a big FEE supporter.

But I can get pissy on certain subjects like firearms.

We all have our triggers. But I don't think many of us care about these issues as much as we pretend. I think we care more about our own petty rivalries. It's tribal more than ideological.

I am convinced of this by how little time we spend on the issues vs how much time we spend discussing each other.
  

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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #25 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:05am
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petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:00am:
I've never seen anyone run from that...I've never seen trump as a conservative and I've never believed he ran on that platform...He's attacked establishment dems and repubs equally...I think that is why he was elected...people sick of the establishment on both sides..

whether he turns out to be fiscally conservative remains yet to be seen - most I know who are conservatives did not like the last budget that he signed off on...he supports the 2nd...but very libertarian on other issues...

I'm curious as to what to you are referring to. Where is he libertarian?
  

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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #26 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:15am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:05am:
I'm curious as to what to you are referring to. Where is he libertarian?


Most probably on human relationship issues...some religious conservatives are so hung up on being "anti-gay" etc...he's far more of a live and let live type...even in his personal life...

in other areas he is not libertarian, I'd agree...trade, war, spending

like most people, he cannot be put into one box...
  
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Reply #27 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:39am
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petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:15am:
like most people, he cannot be put into one box...



..  try as you might .. . ..


petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:08am:
It was scary to see how much hatred these folks had pent up...


  
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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #28 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:49am
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Semi-Omnipotent wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:39am:
..  try as you might .. . ..




Would you put a group of kkk members in a box of hate filled people.
  
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Re: Why do libs here mostly refuse to debate issues?
Reply #29 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:49pm
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petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:49am:
Would you put a group of kkk members in a box of hate filled people.



So you believe that  . ..

petep wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:08am:
For three days, every talk started out like this...

I know we are all deeply saddened and devastated by the results of the election...but we need to move on and come together as a country and do our best to move on and heal...the fact is there are just many, many stupid, ignorant people who don't live in cities, are uneducated and these are the people who voted this moron in office and they are just like him...

and the room would erupt with cheers...



. .  is equal to the Klan?  Really?




  
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