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Re: New USSC justice - libs in trouble now
Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:36pm
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Luther wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:58am:
Look at Pat getting all excited

He must not know that the left is winning the culture wars where the real battle is at Wink


That's true, but the left has pulled that off with the aid of a powerful ally for nearly a century, the federal courts - but that's about to change.  Wink
  
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Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:40pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Just out of interest, how does the overtly political appointment of Justices sit with your conception of the separation of powers?

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Are you talking to me?  We've put up with libs there for 80 years - why change now?
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Reply #23 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:19pm
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Archie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
I don’t get it. Simple question. Is it or is it not an abortion the taking of a life?
And what does it have to do with the constitution of the United States?
If it is the taking of a life. It is against the law.

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It is the taking of a life, but it is not, currently, against the law if certain conditions are met.

Even when it WAS against the law, it was not treated like murder.  Seldom was it prosecuted, and never (to my knowledge) was anybody other than the abortionist prosecuted. Those paying him or her to do it or otherwise aiding and abetting in the commission of the act (which would include the pregnant female unless it was performed against her will) were let off scot free.  Aiders and abetters in murder are prosecuted just like the trigger puller.

And this is the issue alleged pro-lifers have to address.  They want it to be illegal, but most of them don't see it as equivalent to murder.  They want to go back to the "good old days" when it was illegal, but still easy to get.  They're offended by it.  They don't really care a rip about the dead baby.

Now do you get it?  I am betting not.
  

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Reply #24 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:22pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Just out of interest, how does the overtly political appointment of Justices sit with your conception of the separation of powers?

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I don't know of a less political way one can do it.  A chief executive appoints, the higher body of the legislature is charged with confirming (or not, which does happen).  And they serve for life, which means they don't need to worry about keeping anybody happy to keep their job. 

There are problems with any system of selecting justices.  But this is about the least political way I can think of.
  

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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:35pm
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EF wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
I don't know of a less political way one can do it.  A chief executive appoints, the higher body of the legislature is charged with confirming (or not, which does happen).  And they serve for life, which means they don't need to worry about keeping anybody happy to keep their job. 

There are problems with any system of selecting justices.  But this is about the least political way I can think of.



But the overtly political nature - lots of threads here are gleeful approval of the political leanings of one judge or another by one faction or another.

Courts here in UK are determinedly non-political; the appointment process is from within the court system and legal profession, only rubber-stamped by the Government.

  

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Re: New USSC justice - libs in trouble now
Reply #26 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
But the overtly political nature - lots of threads here are gleeful approval of the political leanings of one judge or another by one faction or another.

Courts here in UK are determinedly non-political; the appointment process is from within the court system and legal profession, only rubber-stamped by the Government.



That would be since the UK Constitution Reform Act of 2005. Prior to that, the Lord Chancellor, appointed by the Queen on the advice of the PM, combined executive, legislative, and judicial functions in one office, and this could be overtly political, since the LC could elevate jurists of his choosing for consideration for high court appointments. Since 2005, the LC only supervises the process, and must accept the nominations of an independent committee.
  

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Reply #27 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 4:06pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
But the overtly political nature - lots of threads here are gleeful approval of the political leanings of one judge or another by one faction or another.

Courts here in UK are determinedly non-political; the appointment process is from within the court system and legal profession, only rubber-stamped by the Government.



The legal profession here is a stalwart member of the left wing - I can think of nothing worse than having them choose the judges. 
  
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Reply #28 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
But the overtly political nature - lots of threads here are gleeful approval of the political leanings of one judge or another by one faction or another.

Courts here in UK are determinedly non-political; the appointment process is from within the court system and legal profession, only rubber-stamped by the Government.



I think people who gleefully point to "liberal" and "conservative" judges with the thought that there will be a signficant change in direction are not being realistic.
  

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Re: New USSC justice - libs in trouble now
Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 7:52pm
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Well, they will be disappointed if he turns out to not be an activist judge. Their biggest concern should be how they act during the confirmation. So far they are looking ridiculous.
  

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