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Re: Should Griswold be discussed now or after the 5 "vote" to end privacy
Reply #10 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:39pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
The only place it could be reasonably argued such a right exists is in the ninth Amendment, a position taken by only one of the majority judges, and as I said, even that is problematic for me.


So, you are actually saying that we have no right to privacy.

I find that amazing.
  

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Re: Should Griswold be discussed now or after the 5 "vote" to end privacy
Reply #11 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
So, you are actually saying that we have no right to privacy.

I find that amazing.


In pat's defense, this far from the first amazingly stupid thing that he's said on this board.

We should be used to that by now!
  

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FC,

I've been thinking about how I can respond conversationally without coming across as a total dick.

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Re: Should Griswold be discussed now or after the 5 "vote" to end privacy
Reply #12 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
So, you are actually saying that we have no right to privacy.

I find that amazing.


Think carefully.  One can't dream up rights in the constitution because one thinks they might be a good idea.  "Privacy", properly construed, is something most people, including me, would agree is a  good thing.  But the Constitution is what it is.  It's not a tabula rasa on which a judge can imagine anything.  If it IS used like that, could some judge one day dream up a "right" that you don't agree with?
  
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
Think carefully.  One can't dream up rights in the constitution because one thinks they might be a good idea.  "Privacy", properly construed, is something most people, including me, would agree is a  good thing.  But the Constitution is what it is.  It's not a tabula rasa on which a judge can imagine anything.  If it IS used like that, could some judge one day dream up a "right" that you don't agree with?   


I sure hope that the constitution is not a "tabula rasa" as "tabula rasa" means "blank slate", IOW nothing!!!  Roll Eyes
  

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BowHunter wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
I sure hope that the constitution is not a "tabula rasa" as "tabula rasa" means "blank slate", IOW nothing!!!  Roll Eyes


The thrust of my comment was that it shouldn't become something that should be capriciously filled in in real time by judges who legislate from the bench.
  
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
Think carefully.  One can't dream up rights in the constitution because one thinks they might be a good idea.  "Privacy", properly construed, is something most people, including me, would agree is a  good thing.  But the Constitution is what it is.  It's not a tabula rasa on which a judge can imagine anything.  If it IS used like that, could some judge one day dream up a "right" that you don't agree with?   


Sure Patti, there are no rights unless specifically spelled out in detail in the bill of rights - as you first said, but even including the Constitution, it still leaves your understanding much more an example of your functional illiteracy than about our Constitution.
  

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Reply #17 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:10pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:53pm:
Sure Patti, there are no rights unless specifically spelled out in detail in the bill of rights - as you first said, but even including the Constitution, it still leaves your understanding much more an example of your functional illiteracy than about our Constitution.


What I said blew past you.  Either that, or you're afraid to debate, or more likely, both.  Grin
  
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Re: Should Griswold be discussed now or after the 5 "vote" to end privacy
Reply #18 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:42pm
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- with all the spying done by Obama
- obama doesn't believe in a right to privacy

- did liberals complain about Obama violating right to privacy?
  

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Re: Should Griswold be discussed now or after the 5 "vote" to end privacy
Reply #19 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:48pm
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admin wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:42pm:
- with all the spying done by Obama
- obama doesn't believe in a right to privacy

- did liberals complain about Obama violating right to privacy?


But............but..........that doesn't count.............Hussein is black!
  
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