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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #10 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:50am
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Jasmine wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 4:24am:
From foxnews.com:


Full article: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/07/11/battles-between-smokers-nonsmokers-may-...

What do you think?

If I were on the Board, I would vote to allow smoking within the units. It’s not like cigarettes are illegal. Then again, I’m completely in favor of allowing all private individuals and businesses the ability whether to allow smoking on their premises or not.




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Reply #11 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:21am
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 5:03am:
Are people free to poison their own kids?

Don’t see how you can stop it without an omnipotent State.
  

Wadsworth wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
You are awfully concerned about who gets to live.  Why is it so important to you?
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Reply #12 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:29am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:21am:
Don’t see how you can stop it without an omnipotent State.



Orverturning Griswold gets us there.
  

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BowHunter wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 5:03am:
Are people free to poison their own kids?



Would that be during an exercise of Religious Freedom?  If so, I think the Seawolfs would be OK with it..



  
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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #14 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:01am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 4:31am:
For a condominium or home-owners association, it should simply be established up front, ideally before the first resident makes purchase of one of the units. Then everybody knows who is buying a home what the rules of the association are. These rules, and others like them, should be clearly defined at that point to no longer be up for debate or democratic process.

They become the homeowner’s rights. Otherwise, beware of purchasing a home where the property rights are subject to the whims of the majority.


I agree, but I think some on this thread are missing the point - it's about nuicance (or possibly harmful) smoke from open windows, balconies etc. affecting others.

On a similar theme, we here in Blighty have had a spate of issues like this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5347469/Church-bells-face-silenced-night...

... with churches, kipper-smokeries, nightclubs and other long established places being challenged by incomers who really did know, before they arrived, about the emissions.
  

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Reply #15 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:17am
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The issue is also shared ventilation or leaky units. Often the neighbors are getting low dosed with secondhand smoke. I would say if the units are really isolated, smoke away. If not, it becomes a health issue, moreso if the nonsmokers have kids that now get to share the smoke.

Some states have laws covering this.
  

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Reply #16 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:57am
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Limey. wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:01am:
On a similar theme, we here in Blighty have had a spate of issues like this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5347469/Church-bells-face-silenced-night...

... with churches, kipper-smokeries, nightclubs and other long established places being challenged by incomers who really did know, before they arrived, about the emissions.

Reminds me of people moving to downtown Austin and then complaining about the noise.  You moved next to bars that play live music; you knew what you were getting into (and the downtown scene was probably why you moved there).
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:06am
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:57am:
Reminds me of people moving to downtown Austin and then complaining about the noise.  You moved next to bars that play live music; you knew what you were getting into (and the downtown scene was probably why you moved there).


If there are more people complaining than people making the noise then the noise should stop. It's called democracy.

I disagree with the idea that because things are a certain way at one time they should remain this way forever no matter who moves in and who moves out.
  

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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #18 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:06am:
If there are more people complaining than people making the noise then the noise should stop. It's called democracy.

That's not democracy; that's simply mob rule.

Instead, a noise ordinance was implemented through the council process so that downtown Austin (which draws in tourism, etc.) wasn't killed, which would've been the effect of stopping the noise. The interests of the city as whole (tax $$), business owners, and downtown residents were balanced through an actual democratic process involving the rule of law.

It's still stupid to move downtown and then complain about the noise from the live music.
  
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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #19 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:24am
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Jasmine wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:24am:
Silly question for you or anyone else who might know: Are cigars more or less hazardous to your health than cigarettes - or are they exactly the same?


Cigars and cigarettes are consumed differently and therefore their toxins affect different parts of the body. Same goes for pipes and chewing tobacco.

I'm sure you can figure out or google the details.
  

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