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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:27am
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
That's not democracy; that's simply mob rule.

Instead, a noise ordinance was implemented through the council process so that downtown Austin (which draws in tourism, etc.) wasn't killed, which would've been the effect of stopping the noise. The interests of the city as whole (tax $$), business owners, and downtown residents were balanced through an actual democratic process involving the rule of law.

It's still stupid to move downtown and then complain about the noise from the live music.


Actually it IS democracy, in its most basic form. Most modern democracies are in fact tedious republics. Ancient Athens had a pure democracy with various drawbacks - the mob rule that sometimes ensued could condemn a person to death, or banish them from the territory. La morte de Socrate...
  

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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:29am
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Ulysses wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:24am:
Cigars and cigarettes are consumed differently and therefore their toxins affect different parts of the body. Same goes for pipes and chewing tobacco.

I'm sure you can figure out or google the details.


I would think the second-hand effects between cigars and cigarettes would be more similar though. The second-hand recipient isn't going to care how the smoker smokes it, is he? Or is he?

Obviously cigars are bigger, but I don't think people chain-smoke them as much, so that might balance it out.

This is completely off the top of my head though, so I might easily be wrong.
  



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Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:30am
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Luther wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:50am:
I think this is small cheese and a distraction to what really ill's our country Wink


Another insipidly gay Jasmine thread.
  

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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #23 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:34am
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Ulysses wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:27am:
Actually it IS democracy, in its most basic form.

Perhaps, I should clarify my comment: that's not modern democracy, or shouldn't be.

Pretty sure what we don't want is: there are more of us than there are of you, so we're gonna do it our way, f*ck you. A democracy should consider minority rights and interests, and there has to be a way for the those rights to be protected.
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:35am
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Ulysses wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Another insipidly gay Jasmine thread.


On the contrary, this is a very good thread about our basic beliefs on property rights. There's nothing insipid about it. We could use more threads like this.
  



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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:38am
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Fiddler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Would that be during an exercise of Religious Freedom?  If so, I think the Seawolfs would be OK with it..




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Reply #26 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:39am
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Maestro wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:35am:
On the contrary, this is a very good thread about our basic beliefs on property rights. There's nothing insipid about it. We could use more threads like this.


Actually the property rights theme is but a ruse.
  

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Reply #27 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:45am
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Ulysses wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:39am:
Actually the property rights theme is but a ruse.

I'd be happy to see that thought spelled out further.
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:46am
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 5:03am:
Are people free to poison their own kids?

Oh, hell no. We're not free to murder or rape each other, either.
  

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Re: Should you be able to smoke in your own home?
Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:50am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Oh, hell no. We're not free to murder or rape each other, either.

I suppose I have a funny definition of “poisoning”, because I’m including giving kids an all sugar diet...
  

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