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Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
So YOU are ok with being the ATM for the world?  We are 20 trillion in debt and you are crying that Trump is trying to establish a fairness in the cost being shared by all parties rather then you and I having our money poured into nations who seem to have no interest in self-defense.


If they had no interest in self defense or any other defense, they wouldn't be sending troops, arms, supplies and equipment to support US after Sept 11.  Not one of these countries was attacked that day, but they upheld their part of the NATO charter to supported US.  Many have DIED.  It ain't about money, it's about allies.  Allies that stand against Putin and Russia.  Putin knows this.  That's why he's got your savior, Trump in there.

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Re: Will Trump destroy NATO?
Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
More bullshit.  NATO is a US creation.  It was formed to unite the European democracies to defend against the spread of communism.  The "leader" of NATO rotates between countries.  Again, we have thousands of troops stationed in Europe and so do the members of NATO.  We fight TOGETHER.  I should know.

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And they are supposed to pay their dues just like we do. I am tired of the BS sending our men to die for countries that are no better than the bums we have here on the dole. The time has come for all to exert their best to be able to survive without our people and money. Either that, or our government runs the whole damn world our way. End of story.

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Re: Will Trump destroy NATO?
Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
So YOU are ok with being the ATM for the world?

The question is how do you get NATO members to increase spending. This isn't a new U.S. concern, and Trump's complaints aren't really going to add anything to prior Presidential complaints other than being more vociferous. So, how do you get them to that 2 percent of GDP mark?
  
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
The question is how do you get NATO members to increase spending. This isn't a new U.S. concern, and Trump's complaints aren't really going to add anything to prior Presidential complaints other than being more vociferous. So, how do you get them to that 2 percent of GDP mark?


Trump was floating 4% today.

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Re: Will Trump destroy NATO?
Reply #24 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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We should probably pull out of NATO.  Fought in three of their wars in the 20th century.  They have a bigger combined GDP than the US.
  
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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
If they had no interest in self defense or any other defense, they wouldn't be sending troops, arms, supplies and equipment to support US after Sept 11.  Not one of these countries was attacked that day, but they upheld their part of the NATO charter to supported US.  Many have DIED.  It ain't about money, it's about allies.  Allies that stand against Putin and Russia.  Putin knows this.  That's why he's got your savior, Trump in there.

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Again, alligator tears, we have shed enough blood and resources and it is PAST DUE for these nations to uphold their agreement.  End of story.  Your pissing and moaning over a ridiculous point simply and ONLY because you hate Trump.  That is all this is anymore.
  


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Re: Will Trump destroy NATO?
Reply #26 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:29pm
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Archie wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
And they are supposed to pay their dues just like we do. I am tired of the BS sending our men to die for countries that are no better than the bums we have here on the dole. The time has come for all to exert their best to be able to survive without our people and money. Either that, or our government runs the whole damn world our way. End of story.

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I don't recall the US sending our troops to die for them.  On the other hand, they have sent troops to die for us.

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Reply #27 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:30pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Again, alligator tears, we have shed enough blood and resources and it is PAST DUE for these nations to uphold their agreement.  End of story.  Your pissing and moaning over a ridiculous point simply and ONLY because you hate Trump.  That is all this is anymore.


That's because your savior, Trump wants to break up NATO for Putin.

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Reply #28 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:31pm
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
The question is how do you get NATO members to increase spending. This isn't a new U.S. concern, and Trump's complaints aren't really going to add anything to prior Presidential complaints other than being more vociferous. So, how do you get them to that 2 percent of GDP mark?

Let's wait and see but to be honest, I do not think it was ever ANY President's concern to get NATO to pay their agreed upon share.  This also falls in line with unfair tariffs and unfair trade agreements.  I would LOVE to see what all of these has cost you and I in the long run.  I have no problems with attempting to realign the costs sharing since we carry the burden of it all, do you?
  


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Re: Will Trump destroy NATO?
Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:31pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Again, alligator tears, we have shed enough blood and resources and it is PAST DUE for these nations to uphold their agreement.  End of story.  Your pissing and moaning over a ridiculous point simply and ONLY because you hate Trump.  That is all this is anymore.



I love the way you're being forced to defend Trump's idiotic policies ..  The hypocrisy is so apparent ..
  
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