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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #10 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:06am
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Luther wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:00am:
Are European countries generally "Socialist" Crepe?

Don't you disdain socialism?


Dang, I get tired of telling you how wrong you are.  I disdain Socialism for the United States.  As a Republic, I don't think it works for the betterment of the nation's citizens.  It's too much of robbing from Peter to pay Paul.   If that's the choice of people in other nations, then that's their undoing, not mine.
  
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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #11 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:24am
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crepe05 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:06am:
Dang, I get tired of telling you how wrong you are.  I disdain Socialism for the United States.  As a Republic, I don't think it works for the betterment of the nation's citizens.  It's too much of robbing from Peter to pay Paul.   If that's the choice of people in other nations, then that's their undoing, not mine.


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Dang, I get tired of telling you how wrong you are.


Well, maybe it is you that's wrong? Huh


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I disdain Socialism for the United States.


Well, it's here

Look at all the socialism in this monstrosity budget Trump signed?
Planned parenthood and sanctuary city funding as an example Wink  Shocked

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/23/trump-mulls-veto-1-3-trillion-spendin...


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If that's the choice of people in other nations, then that's their undoing, not mine.


The problem is Crepe, we're helping $protect$ these socialist nations Roll Eyes
  

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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #12 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:02am
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Thank you admin for asking the obvious question, to illustrate facts and data.

The emotional legacy media has flossed the news with how horrible he is being to our allies.

In fact, many of our NATO allies have not kept their commitment and the us (read “we taxpayers”) have been subsiding the budget by spending more than the required commitment

Where have past presidents been here??

It’s about time. The legacy media and emotional left will not discuss the facts around this.
  
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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #13 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:09am
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petep wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:02am:
Thank you admin for asking the obvious question, to illustrate facts and data.

The emotional legacy media has flossed the news with how horrible he is being to our allies.

In fact, many of our NATO allies have not kept their commitment and the us (read “we taxpayers”) have been subsiding the budget by spending more than the required commitment

Where have past presidents been here??

It’s about time. The legacy media and emotional left will not discuss the facts around this.



FYI, Coalition deaths by country in Afghanistan:

Country

Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Czech 10
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 29
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 19
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 24
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
UK 455
US 2412
Total 3550

http://icasualties.org/oef/

The only country attacked on 9-11 was the USA.  Bear that in mind when you accuse these countries of not paying their fair share.

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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #14 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:11am
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:52am:
The NATO countries long ago agreed to spend 2% of their GDP on defense, but few have.  Trump is now demanding that they live up to their commitments.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2...

EXCELLENT GRAPH!  now how in the hell is this right?  We pay more then double what they pay combined and leftist are ok with this waste of our money!?  They are like ticks.
  


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Reply #15 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:13am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:09am:
FYI, Coalition deaths by country in Afghanistan:

Country

Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Czech 10
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 29
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 19
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 24
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
UK 455
US 2412
Total 3550

http://icasualties.org/oef/

The only country attacked on 9-11 was the USA.  Bear that in mind when you accuse these countries of not paying their fair share.

Greg






Thank you for affirming that we pay the most in blood and taxes to nations like Germany who then buy their gas from their enemy, Russia.  Only Progressives think this is fair.   Roll Eyes
  


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Reply #16 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:23am
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:13am:
Thank you for affirming that we pay the most in blood and taxes to nations like Germany who then buy their gas from their enemy, Russia.  Only Progressives think this is fair.   Roll Eyes



Are you aware that Russians own a good portion of the steel industry in the United States?  Are WE also supporting Russia?

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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #17 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:24am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:09am:
FYI, Coalition deaths by country in Afghanistan:

Country

Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Czech 10
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 29
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 19
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 24
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
UK 455
US 2412
Total 3550

http://icasualties.org/oef/

The only country attacked on 9-11 was the USA.  Bear that in mind when you accuse these countries of not paying their fair share.

Greg








Greg. I don’t know how old you are. But as bad and horrific as 9/11 was, NATO has been around much monger than 9/11.

And as far as terrorism goes, I recall in tbe 70’s when it seemed every week some cafe is Paris was getting bombed. The world has lived with Islamic terrorism for many many years. Going back to 700ad. But since modern days, the us sufferred very little till 9/11.

The main point is the 2 percent agreement goes back decades and has been met by less than 5 counties. That is the issue.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:26am
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petep wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:24am:
Greg. I don’t know how old you are. But as bad and horrific as 9/11 was, NATO has been around much monger than 9/11.

And as far as terrorism goes, I recall in tbe 70’s when it seemed every week some cafe is Paris was getting bombed. The world has lived with Islamic terrorism for many many years. Going back to 700ad. But since modern days, the us sufferred very little till 9/11.

The main point is the 2 percent agreement goes back decades and has been met by less than 5 counties. That is the issue.


And if they don't pay, do you believe withdrawing from NATO is the answer?

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Re: - what percent of NATO does the US pay to defend Europe?
Reply #19 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:32am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:23am:
Are you aware that Russians own a good portion of the steel industry in the United States?  Are WE also supporting Russia?

Greg
Are you aware we are over 20 Trillion in debt!!  We are no longer capable of being the world's military.  If Germany feels comfortable buying from Russia, then they no longer need our taxpayer's dollars.  I know your socialist heart bleeds for your fellow Euro, but it is well past time that they shoulder their load.  We do not have anymore money for your beloved Euro states.
  


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