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Reply #30 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:41am
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:39am:
so why should we pay double the fees all of the NATO countries pay?


I think there is ONE foreign base on US soil in Texas.  On the flip side we have NUMEROUS bases on European soil.  That costs money and we do it by choice.

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Reply #31 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:43am
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Honest question that you will not answer.  This is ONLY about Trump and why you cause is losing support.  The one thing I am enjoying about Trump is he is running this just like a CEO would a company.  He is looking to cut waste and you libs a shrieking like banshees.  We are WAY past due for a correction and politicians on both sides have neglected the trust of OUR money.
  


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Reply #32 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:45am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:41am:
I think there is ONE foreign base on US soil in Texas.  On the flip side we have NUMEROUS bases on European soil.  That costs money and we do it by choice.

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And we are long overdue at reassessing these bases and our costs.  20 trillion in debt is historic in the history of mankind.  We are about near the point of no return.
  


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Seawolf wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:45am:
And we are long overdue at reassessing these bases and our costs.  20 trillion in debt is historic in the history of mankind.  We are about near the point of no return.


Is your solution then to close our overseas bases to save money?

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Reply #34 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:07am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:26am:
And if they don't pay, do you believe withdrawing from NATO is the answer?

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Greg. This is very simple. What did each country agree to pay? Have they each met their commitment? That is the starting point for the conversation.
  
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:01am:
Is your solution then to close our overseas bases to save money?

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Where do you suggest we get this money?  I mean your political views shift constantly like quicksand.  Under Obama you mocked us when Romney brought up Russia.  You asked me if Russians were hiding under my bed.  Now you see Russians everywhere.  Under Obama he sought to cut military spending and increase entitlements and you were all for this.  Now you are arguing against any sort of accountability regarding our military spending.  Why do you bounce from one end of the spectrum to the next depending on who is in office?  Why no consistency in any of your views on policies?
  


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petep wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:07am:
Greg. This is very simple. What did each country agree to pay? Have they each met their commitment? That is the starting point for the conversation.


Again, if they don't pay, should we disband NATO?

What?

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Reply #37 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:10am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:08am:
Again, if they don't pay, should be disband NATO?

What?

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I would first look at revising the budget. So countries keep their commitments.

I believe they can keep the 2 percent but why would they pay if we subsidize it for all these decades with no one ever doing anything.
  
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:07am:
Where do you suggest we get this money?  I mean your political views shift constantly like quicksand.  Under Obama you mocked us when Romney brought up Russia.  You asked me if Russians were hiding under my bed.  Now you see Russians everywhere.  Under Obama he sought to cut military spending and increase entitlements and you were all for this.  Now you are arguing against any sort of accountability regarding our military spending.  Why do you bounce from one end of the spectrum to the next depending on who is in office?  Why no consistency in any of your views on policies?


I asked you if we should close our overseas bases to save money. 

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Reply #39 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:11am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:08am:
Again, if they don't pay, should we disband NATO?

What?

Greg

Again drama queen, we simply cut our share.  Its that simple, just like we should with the UN.
  


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