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House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:08am
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The dirty democrats would LOVE to have illegal aliens vote in elections in America, .. and many of them do already, but, it is difficult to track and prove that illegal alien voting is occurring.  Sad

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House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.



By: John Binder
11 Jul 2018

House Democrats are crafting legislation ahead of the 2018 midterm elections that would abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency — the sole law enforcement unit tasked with arresting and deporting criminal illegal aliens.

The Democrats’ “Abolish ICE” legislation, obtained by the Washington Post, reveals the extent to which the left-wing party is willing to take their immigration maximalism agenda to please big business donors and the open borders lobby.

Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI) is authoring the legislation which would abolish ICE and then investigate the agency to establish whether or not ICE agents violated international law when arresting and deporting illegal aliens.

Pocan’s legislation, which has been circulated around to House Democrats, would set up a task force to review what ICE should be replaced with. In the meantime, no federal agency would be able to arrest and detain illegal aliens living across the United States. The Democrat plan would — at least temporarilycease all interior enforcement of immigration.


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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:26am
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"Pocan’s legislation, which has been circulated around to House Democrats, would set up a task force to review what ICE should be replaced with."

So, there would still be immigration enforcement.

You realize ICE didn't exist until 2003 right? Before that there was INS. You also realize this agency has a lot of problems right? Something definitely needs to happen with ICE; it's not a sacrosanct agency.
  
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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
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  They stop people from illegally entering the country.   What possibly could they be "replaced with"???  Maybe you could replace ICE with NICE, which would only hand out cookies as economic refugees, drug runners, human traffickers, and MS13 gang members pour across the former border.
  
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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:01pm:
They stop people from illegally entering the country.

No, that's Customs and Border Patrol. ICE handles immigration enforcement within the U.S., i.e., people who are already here.

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What possibly could they be "replaced with"???

What could INS have possibly been replaced with? ICE apparently. 
  
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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
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Demos wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:18pm:
No, that's Customs and Border Patrol. ICE handles immigration enforcement within the U.S., i.e., people who are already here.

What could INS have possibly been replaced with? ICE apparently. 


OK, they shuffled organizations and came up with new names.  All of them enforce US immigration law.  Just as how if you don't have borders you don't have a country, if you don't have enforcement of immigration laws, the laws don't really exist.  Whatever you call organizations involved, either you enforce the law or you don't, and it's obvious democrats prefer the "don't".
  
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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
OK, they shuffled organizations and came up with new names.  All of them enforce US immigration law.  Just as how if you don't have borders you don't have a country, if you don't have enforcement of immigration laws, the laws don't really exist.  Whatever you call organizations involved, either you enforce the law or you don't, and it's obvious democrats prefer the "don't".

Libertarians feel that way, too.

  

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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
Libertarians feel that way, too.




Yaaaaaaa good luck with the MS13 member who moves in next to you.
  
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
All of them enforce US immigration law.  Just as how if you don't have borders you don't have a country .if you don't have enforcement of immigration laws, the laws don't really exist.  Whatever you call organizations involved, either you enforce the law or you don't, and it's obvious democrats prefer the "don't".

That's not what this bill is though. It's about replacing ICE. And whatever one thinks about the current "zero-tolerance" policy, ICE has serious issues (particularly with corruption, see here, here, and here) and needs to either be reformed or replaced.
  
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If corrupt individuals are found, prosecute them.  In the last year, we've seen all kinds of indications of corruption in the justice dept., particularly the FBI.  Should we replace it?  The people going after ICE aren't motivated by anti-corruption - they want to stop the effective enforcement of US immigration laws.
  
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Re: House Dems Plot ‘Abolish ICE’ Legislation to End All Immigration Enforcement in U.S.
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:35pm:
Yaaaaaaa good luck with the MS13 member who moves in next to you.

If zhe's active I suspect zhe won't be here long.
  

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