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Re: Historical & Scientific Proof of Jesus' Resurrection
Reply #80 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:52pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
The Bible speaks literally and figuratively and when read in context it is clear, but that is the key.


Sure, and it's clear that the context of Isaiah 60 is poetically-worded prophecy.  That's why I don't take "flies like a cloud" to be a literal explanation of airplanes, and why Fozzy's reading is nonsense.
  

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Re: Historical & Scientific Proof of Jesus' Resurrection
Reply #81 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 8:00pm
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Running Deer wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Sure, and it's clear that the context of Isaiah 60 is poetically-worded prophecy.  That's why I don't take "flies like a cloud" to be a literal explanation of airplanes, and why Fozzy's reading is nonsense.

I have never really studied Is 60, but Isaiah 53 I am well versed on.
  


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Re: Historical & Scientific Proof of Jesus' Resurrection
Reply #82 - Aug 16th, 2018 at 4:44am
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Cite your sources and links please.


Let me give you a hint: The Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, because he doesn't fulfill THEIR prophecy of a Messiah. However, their bible is the one after which your OT has been written.

I know that you're not the shiniest bulb in the chandelier but this is pretty straightforward.
  

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Re: Historical & Scientific Proof of Jesus' Resurrection
Reply #83 - Aug 16th, 2018 at 6:54am
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BowHunter wrote on Aug 16th, 2018 at 4:44am:
Let me give you a hint: The Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, because he doesn't fulfill THEIR prophecy of a Messiah. However, their bible is the one after which your OT has been written.

I know that you're not the shiniest bulb in the chandelier but this is pretty straightforward.
I already know that but it is apparent you do not.  Most Jews do not study Isaiah 53 or most would know, but that has been their history often.  Both the Bible and the Torah quote the book of Isaiah so that fails to prove your point.
  


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