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Is Religion The Cause Of Many Wars?
Jul 28th, 2018 at 7:23am
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What say you?
  

All throughout our American history, world history, "ordinary people can do extraordinary things"


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Re: Is Religion The Cause Of Many Wars?
Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 12:23pm
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Clearly..  It's obvious to anyone remotely familiar with world history.
  
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Re: Is Religion The Cause Of Many Wars?
Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm
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Willys Wonka - Ex-Member wrote on Jul 28th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
Clearly..  It's obvious to anyone remotely familiar with world history.

“Encyclopedia of Wars,” authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod document the history of recorded warfare, and from their list of 1763 wars only 123 have been classified to involve a religious cause, accounting for less than 7 percent of all wars and less than 2 percent of all people killed in warfare.

  Similarly, the vast numbers of genocides (those killed in ethic cleanses, purges, etc. that are not connected to a declared war) are not based on religion. It’s estimated that over 160 million civilians were killed in genocides in the 20th century alone, with nearly 100 million killed by the Communist states of USSR and China.  It would appear you are not familiar with world history.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2018 at 5:53pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
“Encyclopedia of Wars,” authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod document the history of recorded warfare, and from their list of 1763 wars only 123 have been classified to involve a religious cause, accounting for less than 7 percent of all wars and less than 2 percent of all people killed in warfare.

  Similarly, the vast numbers of genocides (those killed in ethic cleanses, purges, etc. that are not connected to a declared war) are not based on religion. It’s estimated that over 160 million civilians were killed in genocides in the 20th century alone, with nearly 100 million killed by the Communist states of USSR and China.  It would appear you are not familiar with world history.


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only 123 have been classified to involve a religious cause,


Only? Huh Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 2nd, 2018 at 5:57pm
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Luther wrote on Aug 2nd, 2018 at 5:53pm:
Only? Huh Roll Eyes


Plus they've been classified that way by religious nuts. Imagine how much more there would be if there were normal people doing the classifying!
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 12:03am
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Funny how atheists always excuse all those millions of people needlessly murdered by the hands of devout evolutionists who, by the way, committed those murders in the name of so-called scientific progress. But you will ignore all that and continue blaming religion for all wars.

The only worldview that has caused as much genocide other than atheism is Islam. While Islam still holds the overall world's record of most people murdered in their 1400 year history, it does not beat the world record for the most people murdered in the shortest time frame in history. Atheism holds the record for the most people murdered in a very short time frame of the 20th century. The death toll numbers are estimated to be between 160-million to 200-million. Even when we go by the lower number its still much much higher than all the people put to death in the entire duration of the Inquisition which numbers roughly about 250-thousand.

As for the defensive war called the Crusades...well, had that not been fought we would have eventually been conquered by now by Islam. It was Islam who started off the dark ages and its Islam once again pushing us back into the dark ages. But next time around the new dark age period will not be so pleasant.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 12:21pm
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Luther wrote on Aug 2nd, 2018 at 5:53pm:
Only? Huh Roll Eyes

Yes, only.  Which is less then 7% of all wars.
  


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Reply #7 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 12:37pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, only.  Which is less then 7% of all wars.



I said "Many" wars?

Not in the context of that Wink

I consider 123 many Wink
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 3:12pm
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Luther wrote on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 12:37pm:
I said "Many" wars?

Not in the context of that Wink

I consider 123 many Wink

You have a very low bar regarding the history of mankind which 7% reflects.
  


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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 8:35pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 3:12pm:
You have a very low bar regarding the history of mankind which 7% reflects.


But I do understand the number 123

That's a lot to me Wink
  

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