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Reply #110 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:52am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:51am:
So you are going to let your political enemies control your language? That doesn't seem smart to me.

I prefer the actual dictionary definition. You and the left are just going to have to accept that. lol

This has nothing to do with the left.  Patricks distorted views of racism is typical of the right.
  

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The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Reply #111 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:53am
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
The question is...…..How would you know you have the best.

Reputation and prior performance. But even then you wouldn't know anything for sure. I think "the best" in this case is a relative term.
  

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Reply #112 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:55am
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:52am:
This has nothing to do with the left.  Patricks distorted views of racism is typical of the right.

I think Patrick has a good read on some of the more extreme elements on the left. The problem is he has used it as an excuse to join them.
  

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Reply #113 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:59am
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So blacks beleive they are the superior race........I see Roll Eyes


Who has demanded the following:

1) A month long emphasis on their history based on their race
2) National Museum based on their race.
3) A statue on the National Mall based on their racial hero.
4) A national holiday to honor the same racial hero.
3) A myriad of other race specific museums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_museums_focused_on_African_Americans)
4) Special privileges in college admissions and workplace hiring
5) A national association that is race specific
6) Demand for reparations and victim status based on race.



  

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Reply #114 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:15pm
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PaleoCon wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Who has demanded the following:

1) A month long emphasis on their history based on their race
2) National Museum based on their race.
3) A statue on the National Mall based on their racial hero.
4) A national holiday to honor the same racial hero.
3) A myriad of other race specific museums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_museums_focused_on_African_Americans)
4) Special privileges in college admissions and workplace hiring
5) A national association that is race specific
6) Demand for reparations and victim status based on race.




None of that equals feeling superior.  I can give a list of discrimination that has affected the black community by whites.  What will that prove?  As I said, you have no Idea what racism is.  Bringing up racial inequality is not believing your race is superior.  What it means is that you don't believe you have gotten a fair shake in society.  We can argue that charge, but it does not mean that blacks feel they are superior.  Do you actually beleive that Sharpton, Jackson, Obama believe that blacks are the superior race or do you think that they believe that blacks have a harder time in this country than whites do?  JUST BECAUSE, blacks bring up racial inequality doesn't mean blacks hate white people.
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Reply #115 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:21pm
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patrick2 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Gosh, to listen to your theory, it's hard to understand how western civilization vastly advanced the world before "diversity".  But cite me some studies.  Make sure to present those from qualified, competent, neutral sources, and be sure to include methodology.



Patrick, I could care less if you believe me. I don't need to convince you. I manage, and have done it for decades, and not only am I convinced, industry best practices mean the corporate world is too.
  
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Reply #116 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:44pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:53am:
Reputation and prior performance. But even then you wouldn't know anything for sure. I think "the best" in this case is a relative term.


All AA is trying to do is level the playing field. If you have two people that are equally 'the best', and your team is mostly white, hire the non-white. How is this discrimination when the two candidates are equal?

Now if one sucks and is non-white, and the other is a white rock star, I would definitely go for the rock star. So I agree with you that the best should determine who gets hired, but as someone who has hired for decades, usually you get two candidates (at least), who are equal. At that point, it boils down to diversity and cultural fit. I would never hire a diverse person, for instance, if they did not fit into our culture. So too, I would not hire a white person for the same reason.
  
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Reply #117 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
None of that equals feeling superior.  I can give a list of discrimination that has affected the black community by whites.  What will that prove?  As I said, you have no Idea what racism is.  Bringing up racial inequality is not believing your race is superior.  What it means is that you don't believe you have gotten a fair shake in society.  We can argue that charge, but it does not mean that blacks feel they are superior.  Do you actually beleive that Sharpton, Jackson, Obama beleive that blacks are the superior race or do you think that they believe that blacks have a harder time in this country than whites do?  JUST BECAUSE, blacks bring up racial inequality doesn't mean blacks hate white people.


I've just listed a number of special privileges that indicate a notion of superiority and yet you claim that we should ignore such evidence?

Seeing the world through the lens of race and identity and demanding conformity does so with the idea that their "identity" is superior.

Anytime that you want to try to post a "list of discrimination that has affected the black community by whites", I'll gladly dissect the list and refute most of those tired old accusations.
  

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Re: Racism against whites
Reply #118 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
All AA is trying to do is level the playing field. If you have two people that are equally 'the best', and your team is mostly white, hire the non-white. How is this discrimination when the two candidates are equal?

Now if one sucks and is non-white, and the other is a white rock star, I would definitely go for the rock star. So I agree with you that the best should determine who gets hired, but as someone who has hired for decades, usually you get two candidates (at least), who are equal. At that point, it boils down to diversity and cultural fit. I would never hire a diverse person, for instance, if they did not fit into our culture. So too, I would not hire a white person for the same reason.


If this is just a "suggestion" then I don't think there is a problem but when we go about enforcing race quotas, I think we have a problem.

In my view, the problem with AA is that it focuses on racial identity.
  

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Reply #119 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:57pm
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PaleoCon wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
I've just listed a number of special privileges that indicate a notion of superiority and yet you claim that we should ignore such evidence?

Seeing the world through the lens of race and identity and demanding conformity does so with the idea that their "identity" is superior.

Anytime that you want to try to post a "list of discrimination that has affected the black community by whites", I'll gladly dissect the list and refute most of those tired old accusations.

How does your list indicate a feeling of superiority.  I just explained to you that it has nothing to do with a feeling of superiority, but instead a feeling of not having equal opportunity.  I explained to you that feeling that you have not been treated equally does not mean that you feel superior. 
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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