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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:21am
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petep wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
I’m sorry. Is the right to drive in the bill of rights. Do you have a English or other language requirement to exercise your free speech? You clearly don’t need an education with that post.


Ridiculous.

Did cars exist in 1780?

  

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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:43am
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Ulysses wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:21am:
Ridiculous.

Did cars exist in 1780?



Obviously not ... but other means of transportation did.  The only difference between 1780 and today is how the transportation is powered.  So my friend, you might want to revisit your ... "Ridiculous" comment.


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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:59am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:51pm:
I am talking about all guns. We have to register our cars, get licensed in them and trained. We would not allow someone who could not see to drive a car, and we should not allow those who are mentally unstable own a gun.


Of course there are people who shouldn't be driving who still drive.  Think about our drunk drivers or those whose brains are affected by illegal drugs.  Some of them have legal driver licenses, and some of them do not.  Even those who are "mentally unstable" are able to get licenses because there is no mental test given before a person receives a driver's license.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not the legal gun owners who cause the majority of our killings.  It's those who illegally have them.

I am interested, though.  What do you call "mentally unstable".  What's your criteria?
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:59am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:51pm:
I am talking about all guns. We have to register our cars, get licensed in them and trained. We would not allow someone who could not see to drive a car, and we should not allow those who are mentally unstable own a gun.


The right to own an automobile is constitutionally protected?
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:01pm
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Ulysses wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:21am:
Ridiculous.

Did cars exist in 1780?



The Constitution contains, within itself, the means to add or subtract amendments. It is a legal document that can change.
  

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Reply #15 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:24pm
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Harrys Sockpuppet4335 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:01pm:
The Constitution contains, within itself, the means to add or subtract amendments. It is a legal document that can change.


And it hasn't changed regarding the right to bear arme.
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:32pm
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Harrys Sockpuppet4335 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:59am:
The right to own an automobile is constitutionally protected?


Like Freedom of Speech, there are limits to rights. You can't just go into an operating room, and scream 'Fire!'. Your right, in that case, is harming others.

So while you have a right to bear arms, and I have no problem with that, it does not give you the right to bear them any way you want. There are limits, or do you think we all need personal nukes?
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:33pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Like Freedom of Speech, there are limits to rights. You can't just go into an operating room, and scream 'Fire!'. Your right, in that case, is harming others.

So while you have a right to bear arms, and I have no problem with that, it does not give you the right to bear them any way you want. There are limits, or do you think we all need personal nukes?


This has nothing to do with your claim about automobiles.
  

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Reply #18 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:16pm
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Harrys Sockpuppet4335 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
This has nothing to do with your claim about automobiles.


I guess I should be glad that you noticed I provided a different example. They are identical to me, but if this gets you to answer the question, then mission accomplished.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
I guess I should be glad that you noticed I provided a different example. They are identical to me, but if this gets you to answer the question, then mission accomplished.


There are no similarities at all. The right to own a firearm is constitutionally protected. There is no constitutionally protected right to own an automobile.

This reminds me of the leftist claim that one has a right to marry the person they love. There is no such right. If there were, why does Cameron Diaz currently not an inhabitant of my bedroom?
  

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