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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:08am
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patrick2 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:57am:
A distinction without a difference.  Nazi book burning was brought up.  Both things are suppression of ideas by people unwilling/unable to win by debate.


I bet the Trump Humpers would love to warm their hands in front of a big bonfire fueled by copies of all the major metropolitan daily newspapers in the USA.

  

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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:33am
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patrick2 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:57am:
A distinction without a difference.  Nazi book burning was brought up.  Both things are suppression of ideas by people unwilling/unable to win by debate.


There is a significant difference. If a government were to ban books then there would be no alternatives. Presumably, Alex Jones will be able to find a different platform to host his content.

There is more of a question about universal access to a company's services and the ability for affiliates to speak freely without consequence. Conservatives have said, on a number of occasions, that companies have the right to restrict access to these services. Others on this forum have brought up the similarity between this and net neutrality. The issue is also related to the fairness doctrine and kneeling for the national anthem. 

There is a debate to be had about the power of corporations like Google and Facebook, but it is certainly not the one that you are having.
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
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patrick2 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:57am:
A distinction without a difference.  Nazi book burning was brought up.  Both things are suppression of ideas by people unwilling/unable to win by debate.



Also, do you really think that Alex Jones's ideas are being silenced because he is the pinnacle of conservative thought?
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:12am
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Ulysses wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:08am:
I bet the Trump Humpers would love to warm their hands in front of a big bonfire fueled by copies of all the major metropolitan daily newspapers in the USA.



That's your fantasy.  The shutting down of conservative speech in the media and at universities is a reality.
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #14 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:26am
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Possibly Logical wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:33am:
There is a significant difference. If a government were to ban books then there would be no alternatives. Presumably, Alex Jones will be able to find a different platform to host his content.


Yaaaah - there's SO MANY things out there with the reach and clout of youtube facebook and apple.

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There is more of a question about universal access to a company's services and the ability for affiliates to speak freely without consequence. Conservatives have said, on a number of occasions, that companies have the right to restrict access to these services.


Bogus.  The cake baker sold stuff to gays all the time.  He didn't reject their wedding cake for who they are, but for what they wanted >>>HIM<<< to do. The lib technocrats aren't any where near that - they just want to shut down conservative speech.

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Others on this forum have brought up the similarity between this and net neutrality. The issue is also related to the fairness doctrine and kneeling for the national anthem. 


You've come up with an incredible goulash of mixed issues.  The "Fairness Doctrine" has nothing to do with the other cases - it was a straight-forward attempt by the libs to use the agency of government to shut down conservative speech, and is the worst example of that yet.

The national anthem issue is a ridiculous comparison.  The owners have contracts for the football players to play football.  The consumers pay to watch.  Utterly different from the online media who PURPOSE is the expression of ideas.
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #15 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:16am
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Garden of Earthly Berts wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:48am:
No. Rosie and a band of tens are there singing and clapping out of rhythm. Let the left be the left because the rest of the country is asking "who the hell are these weirdos?"


Okay, I'll ask the obvious.  Who the hell is Unite the Right, or should I ask What the hell is Unite the Right?  Has President Trump been asked to speak?  If not, it's not a question worth asking or responding to.

 
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #16 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:25am
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crepe05 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:16am:
Okay, I'll ask the obvious.  Who the hell is Unite the Right, or should I ask What the hell is Unite the Right?  Has President Trump been asked to speak?  If not, it's not a question worth asking or responding to.

 

Excellent question. The answer is no one knows. Least of all the resistance. They can't put their shoes on without help and subsidies.
  

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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #17 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:31am
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Garden of Earthly Berts wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:25am:
Excellent question. The answer is no one knows. Least of all the resistance. They can't put their shoes on without help and subsidies.


Oh, those Unite the Right people.   Smiley
  
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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
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Vypr wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
- on aug 12 the MAGA crowd of Unite the Right will March in DC
- it will be right in front of the White House
- this is Trump's base. unite the right folks are loyal Trumpists. they love him.
- should Trump speak at the rally?


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Re: - should Trump speak at Aug 12 Unite the Right rally?
Reply #19 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:11am
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crepe05 wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:16am:
Okay, I'll ask the obvious.  Who the hell is Unite the Right, or should I ask What the hell is Unite the Right?  Has President Trump been asked to speak?  If not, it's not a question worth asking or responding to.

 



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The Unite the Right rally, also known as the Charlottesville rally or Charlottesville riots,[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7] and white nationalist[8][9][10] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[11][12] Protesters were members of the far-right and included members of the alt-right, neo-Confederates, Klansmen, neo-Nazis, and various militias. Some of the marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, swastikas, Nazi symbols (such as the Odal rune, Black Sun, Iron Cross, and the Valknut), Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[11][13][14][15][10][16] Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as A12[17] or 8/12.[18] The organizers’ stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[8] and to oppose removing a statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Emancipation Park.[19][15]


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Remember the Charlottesville rally last year?

These morons want to have their clan rally in DC to commemorate their awesomeness. This time the police won't be sitting on their hands and the counter-protesters will be ready. Could get ugly.

The smart thing to do would be to ignore them. No media, no counter-protesters, just an ugly portion of Trump's base wailing at the sky about how their culture has been destroyed by the unfit.

But that won't happen. The media will be all over it, ANTIFA will agitate and our POTUS will equivocate. :/
  

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