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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #20 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:49pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 5:37pm:
The first 3 of your paragraphs is correct


Great, so you understand that St. Paul explicitly said that one doesn't need to know Scripture to act morally.  And understanding that, you won't ever again say that you have to be a Christian or know the Bible to be moral.
  

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #21 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 4:31pm
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Running Deer wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:49pm:
Great, so you understand that St. Paul explicitly said that one doesn't need to know Scripture to act morally.  And understanding that, you won't ever again say that you have to be a Christian or know the Bible to be moral.

First off, Paul was destroying the premise that without the law one could not be found guilty.  He states, and you know this to be true, that God's law is written on every man's heart and will be without excuse on the day of judgement.  Next, where did I post what you claim I posted?  Feel free to quote me so I can understand where you are coming from.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #22 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 4:37pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 9:07pm:
Actually, how can one expect Biblical morality when one is not rooted in scripture

That is the key right there, rooted in scripture.  The Bible says Ps 119:7  "Thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against you."  We do not JUST read it but we live it by God's Holy Spirit.  Far different then someone who has not received Jesus as their savior.  Our desire is to live outside of sin through Jesus which is the only way for this to happen.  What the Catholic church imposes on the lifestyles of their Priest and Nuns are not based anywhere in scripture, for example.
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"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #23 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:39am
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I'd rather be a Roman Catholic any day over being a ridiculous wide-eyed Illuminati conspiracy theorist!
  

"Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Cor. 3:17).
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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #24 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 5:13am
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FEZZILLA wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:39am:
I'd rather be a Roman Catholic any day over being a ridiculous wide-eyed Illuminati conspiracy theorist!


Sure, the inquisition, the burning of heretics, the oppression of Jews and other religions and even TODAY the covering up for pedophiles...

What's not to like? Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #25 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 10:43pm
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BowHunter wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 5:13am:
Sure, the inquisition, the burning of heretics, the oppression of Jews and other religions and even TODAY the covering up for pedophiles...

What's not to like? Roll Eyes


The pedophiles are recent history. RCC not being allowed to marry is one thing, but then accepting evolution theory is another. Combine the two together and you create the perfect storm in the mind of the sexually oppressed priests. But this is a real issue. What isn't a real issue is the Illuminati conspiracy theory and yet that is treated as both a real issue today and true history even though nothing about it is remotely true. But through all this insanity over this evil Illuminati conspiracy theory, I can now see why there was an Inquisition.
Also, the Illuminati conspiracy theory is the same conspiracy as the Final Solution propaganda that was circulated all over Germany by the Nazis. So while Jews were oppressed during the Inquisition, the Illuminati conspiracy theory says to kill all Jews until there are none left. Yeah, quite the Palestinian influence to it. That is because the Palestinians allied with the Nazis in WWII and are still pumping out the same propaganda as they did back in WWII!

Also, it is written right there in the Torah--the first five Books of the Bible, the Books of Moses--that God said such oppression to the Jews would be their curse for disobedience (Leviticus 26:33-35; Deuteronomy 28:15-68). But God also said they would return to their land after being scattered all over the earth (Deuteronomy 30). Prophecy also say the Jews will return to Israel by means of air travel (Isaiah 60:8-10).

So what you are observing in history is the hand of God. And now the hand of God is against all who oppress the Jews. For Israel is owned by God. That is His real-estate. The whole earth is God's, but Israel is God's Personal Real Estate Property. The curse against the Jews is lifted and now anyone who curses them will once again become a curse. This places modern liberalism is a bad position since they want to help the muslims kill off all Jews. And all because of the Illuminati conspiracy theory!

So which is worse: Inquisition or Illuminati conspiracy theory? The Illuminati conspiracy theory is far worse than any crime ever committed in the Inquisition. After all, some 200,000 people were executed in the Inquisition. Some had it coming and some were innocent people who became martyrs in death. But the Final Solution (i.e., Illuminati conspiracy theory) has exterminated well over 200,000,000 people between the rise of the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and modern socialist states who all use the same conspiracy theory to push their agenda.

Stats:

Inquisition death toll: 200,000

Illuminati conspiracy theory death toll: 200,000,000.

But wait, the death toll of the Illuminati conspiracy theory only included socialist regimes. Lets add the muslim death toll to the socialist death toll and see how it figures.

Inquisition death toll: 200,000

Illuminati conspiracy theory: 470,000,000!

We got to add the 270,000,000 slaughtered people from all the countries muslims invaded and they used similar conspiracies to spread division and conquer.

So I seriously do fail to see your argument here.

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #26 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 10:49pm
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And the Inquisition death toll takes place over a much longer period of time. The socialists, who use Illuminati conspiracy theory to push their craziness, murdered an undisputed 160,000,000 people in the shortest time frame in history. That number is the smallest number allowed by historians. The more accurate number is more like 200,000,000. We are talking roughly a 50 year time span here! The Inquisition took centuries to waste some 200,000 people.

So you tell me which is worse: Inquisition or Illuminati conspiracy theory?

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #27 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 10:51pm
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Running Deer wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:49pm:
Great, so you understand that St. Paul explicitly said that one doesn't need to know Scripture to act morally.  And understanding that, you won't ever again say that you have to be a Christian or know the Bible to be moral.


Big problem with that statement:

A. You are not saved by works.

B. Evolution theory dogmatically teaches moral relativism.
  

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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #28 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 4:45am
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FEZZILLA wrote on Aug 26th, 2018 at 10:43pm:
The pedophiles are recent history. RCC not being allowed to marry is one thing, but then accepting evolution theory is another. Combine the two together and you create the perfect storm in the mind of the sexually oppressed priests. But this is a real issue. What isn't a real issue is the Illuminati conspiracy theory and yet that is treated as both a real issue today and true history even though nothing about it is remotely true. But through all this insanity over this evil Illuminati conspiracy theory, I can now see why there was an Inquisition.
Also, the Illuminati conspiracy theory is the same conspiracy as the Final Solution propaganda that was circulated all over Germany by the Nazis. So while Jews were oppressed during the Inquisition, the Illuminati conspiracy theory says to kill all Jews until there are none left. Yeah, quite the Palestinian influence to it. That is because the Palestinians allied with the Nazis in WWII and are still pumping out the same propaganda as they did back in WWII!

Also, it is written right there in the Torah--the first five Books of the Bible, the Books of Moses--that God said such oppression to the Jews would be their curse for disobedience (Leviticus 26:33-35; Deuteronomy 28:15-68). But God also said they would return to their land after being scattered all over the earth (Deuteronomy 30). Prophecy also say the Jews will return to Israel by means of air travel (Isaiah 60:8-10).

So what you are observing in history is the hand of God. And now the hand of God is against all who oppress the Jews. For Israel is owned by God. That is His real-estate. The whole earth is God's, but Israel is God's Personal Real Estate Property. The curse against the Jews is lifted and now anyone who curses them will once again become a curse. This places modern liberalism is a bad position since they want to help the muslims kill off all Jews. And all because of the Illuminati conspiracy theory!

So which is worse: Inquisition or Illuminati conspiracy theory? The Illuminati conspiracy theory is far worse than any crime ever committed in the Inquisition. After all, some 200,000 people were executed in the Inquisition. Some had it coming and some were innocent people who became martyrs in death. But the Final Solution (i.e., Illuminati conspiracy theory) has exterminated well over 200,000,000 people between the rise of the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and modern socialist states who all use the same conspiracy theory to push their agenda.

Stats:

Inquisition death toll: 200,000

Illuminati conspiracy theory death toll: 200,000,000.

But wait, the death toll of the Illuminati conspiracy theory only included socialist regimes. Lets add the muslim death toll to the socialist death toll and see how it figures.

Inquisition death toll: 200,000

Illuminati conspiracy theory: 470,000,000!

We got to add the 270,000,000 slaughtered people from all the countries muslims invaded and they used similar conspiracies to spread division and conquer.

So I seriously do fail to see your argument here.

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Under Communism, it's the exact opposite.
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Re: Today, In Catholic Theology
Reply #29 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:07pm
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FEZZILLA wrote on Aug 26th, 2018 at 10:51pm:
Big problem with that statement:

A. You are not saved by works.


Paul's not talking about salvation.  He's talking about the basis on which one will be judged at the end times.  Re-read the passage.

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B. Evolution theory dogmatically teaches moral relativism.


Scientific theories say nothing about morals.
  

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