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Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:17am
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There are millions of people all around the world who know evolution theory has been discredited for over 100 years. We know its all politics controlling scientists who are in the pocketbooks of corrupt politicians. But how can this be proven without a bias? Sure, I provide links explaining how the beating heart and soul of biological evolution--spontaneous generation--is well refuted. I will leave a couple of columns on this issue. However, could not an atheist come back with columns written by atheists saying atheism is true? Sure they could, and very easily. So when there are two sources that say their side is true, and both debunk the other side, which do you trust? There is a simple solution to this argument.

Spontaneous Generation is the same thing as abiogenesis. They are interchangeable words that mean the exact same thing. It means that life arouse form non-life. Yet, DR.Louis Pasteur had thoroughly discredited the once commonly held belief that life can spontaneously arise from non-life, that life comes only from life. He proved mico-organisms multiply in the air, giving the appearance of spontaneous generation (aka, abiogenesis).

So if spontaneous generation is discredited in science, what does that say about biological evolution? After all, Pasteur proved that life comes only from life. Therefore it logically follows that life came only from Eternal Life! God is our Father in Heaven! But evolution teaches life from non-life which is exactly what Pasteur proved could not ever happen no matter how much time one is willing to give it. Here is proof that abiogensis is false. Check only College Dictionary for definitions.

Spontaneous Generation defined
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/spontaneous-generation

Abiogenesis defined
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/abiogenesis

Spontaneous Generation defined
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/spontaneous-generation

Abiogensis defined
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/abiogenesis

Spontaneous Generation defined
http://www.yourdictionary.com/spontaneous-generation

Abiogenesis defined
http://www.yourdictionary.com/abiogenesis

Spontaneous Generation defined
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/spontaneous+generation

Abiogensis defined
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/abiogenesis

Spontaneous Generation defined
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spontaneous%20generation

Abiogenesis defined
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abiogenesis#medicalDictionary

Spontaneous Generation defined
https://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Spontaneous_generation

Abiogenesis defined
https://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Abiogenesis

Here are two columns which are supported by Dictionary definitions

https://creation.com/abiogenesis

https://creation.com/why-the-miller-urey-research-argues-against-abiogenesis

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #1 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 10:51am
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Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life.

You are making a category error.
  

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #2 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:03pm
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Limey. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 10:51am:
Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life.

You are making a category error.

So what was the origin of life in your view?
  


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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #3 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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Limey. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 10:51am:
Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life.

You are making a category error.

I think you are now arguing a technicality and not the over all view that earth was populated through the evolutionary process.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #4 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:41pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:03pm:
So what was the origin of life in your view?


I'm not Limey, but I think the simplest explanation people who do not believe in a creator can give is "s--t happens."  Here's a link to a long article, but one does not have to read all of it to get their point.  As Darwin said himself, it takes a mighty big "IF" to accept this version.

But one can be a creationist and believe that what this article says DID happen, only it was engineered by a creator.  An awful lot of things have to go right for it to be any other way, and that just doesn't ring true.

But the bigger question is: IF the universe we see around us arose from a big bang billions of years ago, when an infinitely dense singularity exploded in the mother of all explosions, flinging matter, time, and space into something that is not space, from where did that infinitely dense singularity come?

A) it just was.  It existed outside of time and space, both of which came into being when it exploded.  On its own.

B) a supreme being, inexplicable, who not only exists outside of time and space but also matter, made it.

C) that infinitely dense singularity is one with the creator (kind of a version of B)

All three require suspension of disbelief.  Which requires the most is a matter of personal opinion, I guess, but it seems pretty clear to me that B requires the least suspension of disbelief.

This is not to say that the Creator of the Bible is the only possible answer to the question "who is the creator?"  I believe it is the correct answer, but I am willing to live and let live, even with people who say that infiniitely dense singularity was a completely inamimate object that just WAS and ALWAYS HAD BEEN, existing on its own outside of the constraints of time and space.  And the word always implies "time", so maybe we need another word to describe it.  Eternal is used for Creator, no beginning, no end,  no matter, completely spirit, inexplicable.  That I can grab onto.  But those same attributes in an infinitely dense singularity?  It just does not compute.
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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm
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The Bible is clear, he CREATED MAN, it never said he evolved man.  The Hebrew word is clear.I fail to see a valid reason to alter what the Bible says.
  


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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
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Where's the proof?  I see a bunch of yapping about abiogenesis, but no evidence that evolution is a "political fraud", whatever that even means.

The origin of life is a hotly-debated topic, and one that will probably never be completely resolved.  There were probably no fossils of the origin of life, and any fossil-like evidence was almost certainly destroyed hundreds of millions of years ago.  All origin theories rely heavily on biochemical evidence (i.e., proteins and DNA/RNA).

Of course, there's not a single shred of evidence that the universe is 10,000 years old.  Literally reading Genesis does not begin to explain the colossal amount of biochemical, fossil, and physical evidence that we have discovered in the last ~150 years.
  

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
I think you are now arguing a technicality and not the over all view that earth was populated through the evolutionary process.



Oh for foxtrot foxtrot sierra.


These are two discrete conversations.


Why do you timid people hide from the discussion?
  

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 9:34pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 5:03pm:
So what was the origin of life in your view?


Entirely irrelevant to a discussion of evolution. You’ll note that Fezzilla has run away.

Expected.


EF sets out perfectly usable positions; we can continue. Thanks, Elmer.
  

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Re: Evolution theory is a political fraud and here's the proof
Reply #9 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 10:24pm
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Oh for foxtrot foxtrot sierra.


These are two discrete conversations.


Why do you timid people hide from the discussion?
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Interesting, I could conclude you seem to run from my post.  Why do people like yourself make assumptions about running from posts?  Do you have a life?  Do you work?  Are you not hours different time zone.  When people make these remarks you seem to expect that lives revolve around this forum.  Patience.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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