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Iraq: Protests in Basra
Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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Government buildings set on fire; at least 7 dead so far.

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Basra protests: Iraq government buildings torched in new unrest

Protesters have attacked government and other key buildings in the southern Iraqi city of Basra as thousands again took to the streets, angry over corruption and the lack of services.

Crowds swarmed a state TV building and set fire to others, sources in the area told the BBC.

It is the fourth straight night of violent protests but the unrest has been rumbling since July.

At least seven people have been killed this week alone.

Iraqi politicians are struggling to form a functioning government following inconclusive elections in May.

The Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, has offered emergency funds but the protests have continued.

The latest came after a curfew ordered by the authorities in the capital Baghdad was cancelled minutes before it was due to come into effect.

"The people protest and the government doesn't care, treats them as vandals," a 25-year-old demonstrator told the AFP news agency.

People in the city are angry about the lack of basic services, including drinking water, and jobs.

Local residents say the government is corrupt and has allowed infrastructure to virtually collapse in the region that generates much of Iraq's oil wealth.

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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:38pm
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From Stratfor...

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Why It Matters: Persistent unrest in #Basra has resulted in fatalities and is hampering the federal government's ability to form a government. The province is also a major oil-producing region in #Iraq.

Background: Protesters in #Iraq are demanding better access to basic services such as #electricity and #water, but the government has struggled to meet the demands.

https://twitter.com/Stratfor/status/1037815752756215809
  
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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:44pm
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Hmm.

If only McCain were still here.  Graham lost his wingman, the poor bastard.

We need somebody to agitate for an invasion.  That'll fix things in Iraq.  Regime change.  The one they've got is obviously problematic.

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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:47pm
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Soon we'll be longing for the good old days of Saddam Hussein.

He knew how to keep everyone in line.

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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
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Queshank wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:44pm:
The one they've got is obviously problematic.

Well, it is currently being lead by Sadr (maybe if they ever form a government), whom we didn't like not too long ago.
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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 6:21pm
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Empire is expensive and hard to maintain.

Shoulda never gone in, (feel the same way about Afghanistan), shouldn't stay (been calling for us to declare victory and leave from day one) and need to reject pols who want to carry the big stick.

That said, we're there, been there over a decade and the story hasn't changed. Just a little more training! Been hearing that and numbers, oh the numbers!, the Iraqis have twelve battalions of western trained warriors now!...on and on it goes.

Pull out and let the chips fall where they may...the escalation of commitment (we can't let the troops fight and die in vain!) just results in more deaths and not an inch closer to peace.


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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 7:20pm
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Empire is expensive and hard to maintain.

Shoulda never gone in, (feel the same way about Afghanistan), shouldn't stay (been calling for us to declare victory and leave from day one) and need to reject pols who want to carry the big stick.

That said, we're there, been there over a decade and the story hasn't changed. Just a little more training! Been hearing that and numbers, oh the numbers!, the Iraqis have twelve battalions of western trained warriors now!...on and on it goes.

Pull out and let the chips fall where they may...the escalation of commitment (we can't let the troops fight and die in vain!) just results in more deaths and not an inch closer to peace.


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As you say, it hasn't worked.

It's one thing I agree with Trump on. Had the Democrats been willing to seize on that opportunity, maybe we could've accomplished something.

We need to come home. If it falls, it falls, but this constant state of "propping up" with our blood and theirs is not acceptable.

Or it shouldn't be.
  


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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #7 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm
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What Happened: The White House issued a short statement on Sept. 11 that blamed #Iran for the ongoing violent unrest in #Iraq.

Why It Matters: The statement shows that the U.S. administration is blaming #Iran for the unrest in #Iraq regardless of whether the destabilization is directly attributable to Tehran's actions.

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The White House Statement:

"Over the past few days, we have seen life-threatening attacks in Iraq, including on the United States consulate in Basra and against the American embassy compound in Baghdad.  Iran did not act to stop these attacks by its proxies in Iraq, which it has supported with funding, training, and weapons.

The United States will hold the regime in Tehran accountable for any attack that results in injury to our personnel or damage to United States Government facilities.  America will respond swiftly and decisively in defense of American lives
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-33/
  
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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #8 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 3:13pm
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Queshank wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 5:44pm:
Hmm.

If only McCain were still here.  Graham lost his wingman, the poor bastard.

We need somebody to agitate for an invasion.  That'll fix things in Iraq.  Regime change.  The one they've got is obviously problematic.

Queshank



Actually we missed our chance (or rather the Iraqis who fancied life in a civilised country missed theirs) in 1991.


Regime change then would likely have worked, been welcome, and changed the subsequent tragedy in to a good news story.


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Re: Iraq: Protests in Basra
Reply #9 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 3:42pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 3:13pm:
Actually we missed our chance (or rather the Iraqis who fancied life in a civilised country missed theirs) in 1991.


Regime change then would likely have worked, been welcome, and changed the subsequent tragedy in to a good news story.


Oh well; never mind.


Not to mention Bush's inaction in '92 left the opposition to Saddam hang out to dry.
  

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