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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #20 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:16pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
That's ok, I fight the same demon regarding the ignorance of scripture by those who want to argue with me about it.




But I can very easily turn to my Bible; it’s an easy reference document.


If you want to get on top of English, you’re going to have to work at it.
  

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #21 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:35pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:16pm:
But I can very easily turn to my Bible; it’s an easy reference document.


If you want to get on top of English, you’re going to have to work at it.


There are bible sites all over the Internet. They provide all sorts of searching tools that allow dummies like SW to pretend that they are experts.
  

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FC,

I've been thinking about how I can respond conversationally without coming across as a total dick.

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #22 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 4:00pm
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BowHunter wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
There are bible sites all over the Internet. They provide all sorts of searching tools that allow dummies like SW to pretend that they are experts.

ROFL.  That's right, a library at your fingertips.  Who in their right mind would EVER use tools that advance one's knowledge.  Just talk out your butt and hope no one realizes just how ignorant you really are.   Cheesy Wink
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #23 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 4:29pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 13th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
ROFL.  That's right, a library at your fingertips.  Who in their right mind would EVER use tools that advance one's knowledge.  Just talk out your butt and hope no one realizes just how ignorant you really are.   Cheesy Wink


Your crass ignorance of your bible is made manifest each time you try to outmatch people with genuine knowledge like RD ( as much as I dislike the guy, I'll have to give him that). Just as I said your pretend expertise is based solely on sites that allow you to search passages on keywords and themes as well as more subtle criteria. These sites are tailor-made for dummies like you that can"make believe" that they know anything about the subject. You're as fake as a three-dollar bill and just about as clever.
  

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I've been thinking about how I can respond conversationally without coming across as a total dick.

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #24 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 6:14pm
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BowHunter wrote on Sep 13th, 2018 at 4:29pm:
Your crass ignorance of your bible is made manifest each time you try to outmatch people with genuine knowledge like RD ( as much as I dislike the guy, I'll have to give him that). Just as I said your pretend expertise is based solely on sites that allow you to search passages on keywords and themes as well as more subtle criteria. These sites are tailor-made for dummies like you that can"make believe" that they know anything about the subject. You're as fake as a three-dollar bill and just about as clever.

Why don't you show me how stupid I am if what you say is true.  I am honestly laughing at your attempts to ridicule people for sourcing their information.  Do you even grasp how stupid your criticism is for people using links!?  You seriously can not make this stuff up.   Cheesy Grin. Typical liberal logic when you can never win an argument.  I showed my wife your remarks and she laughed.   Cheesy.  I honestly do not think your capable of realizing how foolish those remarks are
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"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #25 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 4:57am
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 13th, 2018 at 6:14pm:
Why don't you show me how stupid I am if what you say is true.  I am honestly laughing at your attempts to ridicule people for sourcing their information.  Do you even grasp how stupid your criticism is for people using links!?  You seriously can not make this stuff up.   Cheesy Grin. Typical liberal logic when you can never win an argument.  I showed my wife your remarks and she laughed.   Cheesy.  I honestly do not think your capable of realizing how foolish those remarks are



And yet, when we get in to a genuine conversation at the sharp end of your belief you often struggle.

I recall our discussion about Abraham and Isaac. You dodged and dodged, using interpretations of what the Bible says rather than the actual words in the Bible.

Similarly on the discussions we have about evolution - you place a higher value on the words in Scripture than on the evidence of your own eyes or the verified, tested evidence of scientists. I have my opinions about the psychology at work in this, but aside from that it makes me despair that someone intelligent can make a conscious choice to live in a fantasy world.

On top of that despair is irritation that you act as you do, claiming that you have some superior knowledge denied to those of us with doubt in our minds about religion. Actually, no, not religion, just your own version.

On this thread, Fezz commits the same offence against sense; he condemns Islam but can't accept that his own religion has exactly the same status - and I mean exactly the same.
  

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #26 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 8:21am
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Limey. wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 4:57am:
And yet, when we get in to a genuine conversation at the sharp end of your belief you often struggle.

I recall our discussion about Abraham and Isaac. You dodged and dodged, using interpretations of what the Bible says rather than the actual words in the Bible.

Similarly on the discussions we have about evolution - you place a higher value on the words in Scripture than on the evidence of your own eyes or the verified, tested evidence of scientists. I have my opinions about the psychology at work in this, but aside from that it makes me despair that someone intelligent can make a conscious choice to live in a fantasy world.

On top of that despair is irritation that you act as you do, claiming that you have some superior knowledge denied to those of us with doubt in our minds about religion. Actually, no, not religion, just your own version.

On this thread, Fezz commits the same offence against sense; he condemns Islam but can't accept that his own religion has exactly the same status - and I mean exactly the same.

First off I have yet to struggle with anything scriptural you have presented.  Try again.  Secondly, you and others come into these discussion with very, very little knowledge of scripture.  When was the last time you actually STUDIED the Bible?  Actually, when was the last time you sat down and just read the Bible through?  The problem with many of the debates are that you and others tend to start an argument with little to no knowledge contextually of the very, very few passages you sling around in an attempt to prove your point.

  What is even more amazing is you actually want to be taken serious while mocking our belief and trying to act like you are interested in something you say are fairy tales.  Take a moment and self-reflect.  I could have a whole lot more respect if you actually spent time reading it and had a fundamental knowledge of what it is you are talking about.

  Finally, the attitude you are whining about STARTS with you and others who walk in and trash us, mock us and our faith RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING of our so called discussion.  So how am I or anyone else expected to have ANY serious attempt at a discussion when you and others have no tolerance towards our faith.  At the very onset of our talk you show contempt towards us.  Not sure but is this how Euros behave?

  I have attempted to have conversations and they end up becoming insult fest and almost always from your end.  I have refrained from wallowing in the ignorant act of insulting folks, even when they seem to have no problem casting them out.  You USE to be a nice guy who had patience and often engaged in discussion.  Over time I have witness your attitude and behavior take a serious plunge and not for the better. 
  

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #27 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 12:42pm
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Actually I really enjoy these conversations and as you know I'm more than a little conflicted.

I take a certain position on LNF religion board which may come across as hostile - I'll apologise for that right now. I reserve the right to be robust, but I will tone down a bit (maybe not with Fez and his frankly - or should that be Stuly Smiley ) bigoted nonsense about Muslims.


You do yourself no favours though when you talk about your own knowledge of the Bible as being in some other ethereal sphere.

Let's go back to the Abraham - Isaac discussion. Those words in the Bible are there for all to read. The moral questions are real and relevant right now.
  

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #28 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:14pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:50am:
Fez corrected your misnomer that Islam is of the Abrahamic faith.  Your remarks was false.


Fizzle corrected nothing .. 

Hagar represents the old covenant and as such Abraham's first born Ishmael is as "Abrahamic" as new covenant Isaiah..

This knee jerk "they aren't one of us" plays out not only with Christians denying their connection to Islam but can be seen in your "Westboro Baptist aren't Christians" nonsense..



  

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Re: Islam: The New Pet-Religion of the Left
Reply #29 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 3:38pm
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Fiddler wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
Fizzle corrected nothing .. 

Hagar represents the old covenant and as such Abraham's first born Ishmael is as "Abrahamic" as new covenant Isaiah..

This knee jerk "they aren't one of us" plays out not only with Christians denying their connection to Islam but can be seen in your "Westboro Baptist aren't Christians" nonsense..




Islams only connection is that it is consistent to man worshiping a false god.  Violation of the 2nd Commandment according to the Mosaic law given us by God.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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