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Re: Just heard Manafort will cooperate (not just plead guilty)
Reply #20 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:30pm
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stu_gatze wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:21pm:
But .. why CAN'T Mueller GET Trump?

ANSWER: there is NO evidence that Trump did anything illegal!


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Re: Just heard Manafort will cooperate (not just plead guilty)
Reply #21 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:33pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
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The more frantic Stu gets about this, the higher the likelihood Trump's days in the Oval Office are numbered.

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Reply #22 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:35pm
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Ulysses wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

The more frantic Stu gets about this, the higher the likelihood Trump's days in the Oval Office are numbered.

This is a fun time.


Yeah, he's startin' to sweat...

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Re: Just heard Manafort will cooperate (not just plead guilty)
Reply #23 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:59pm
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Vypr wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 11:43am:
Heard on the radio it isn't just a plea, he is specifically going to cooperate and work with Mueller.

If true, I am surprised. He was almost guaranteed a pardon. Maybe he was getting mixed signals behind the scenes from team Trump.

Maybe he hopes cooperation may also stave off state charges?


Manafort is looking at a future where there is every possibility Trump will be removed from office and unable to issue any pardons.

The interesting component is how much that potentially helps the Republicans in the lead up to the election. 

I've been looking at how much damage it was going to do to have the headlines be about Manafort's Russian connections for the entire month of September and part of October.

That's gone now.  Unless Manafort has something *f*cking* amazing ... Manafort's plea deal is actually a boon for Republicans.

It means the last link to any Russian controversy is gone.  The Russian conspiracy theory is dead. 

Now we're in "Trump is incompetent" mode.  And the jury is out on whether that'll be a successful sell or whether Trump can convince people it's an example of the swamp and the "deep state" fighting his attempts to drain it and enact the "will of the Silent People of America."

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Reply #24 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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Queshank wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Manafort is looking at a future where there is every possibility Trump will be removed from office and unable to issue any pardons.

The interesting component is how much that potentially helps the Republicans in the lead up to the election. 

I've been looking at how much damage it was going to do to have the headlines be about Manafort's Russian connections for the entire month of September and part of October.

That's gone now.  Unless Manafort has something *f*cking* amazing ... Manafort's plea deal is actually a boon for Republicans.

It means the last link to any Russian controversy is gone.  The Russian conspiracy theory is dead. 

Now we're in "Trump is incompetent" mode.  And the jury is out on whether that'll be a successful sell or whether Trump can convince people it's an example of the swamp and the "deep state" fighting his attempts to drain it and enact the "will of the Silent People of America."

Queshank

Well, as long as he continues to tweet dumb shit like 3000 people did not die in Puerto Rico. That incompetent thing is not going to go away.  As far as the Russia thing is concerned, I just think people are tired of talking about it.  Just stop speculating and wait until the Mueller report comes out.  I have faith that Mueller is non-biased and will have a fair report.
  

Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, Trump won’t go to his funeral very, very soon.


TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
I'll try but it might be beyond my ability. Insulting is "like 90% of what I do here."
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Reply #25 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:37pm
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Rolling?  Flipping?  What does all this really mean?  Is "cooperating" really a synonym?

Do we even know what the charges were that he plead to?  Or the charges he was facing?  Do we know in what way he is cooperating?

Do we really know anything in terms of actual deals?

We can talk all day about some faceless "the Russians" that someone in the campaign must have interacted with, but who are these people?  What bad actions were taken by whom on the Trump side regarding their interactions with "the Russians"?

These threads and breathless articles that keep coming out are hilarious in this respect.  They end up saying almost nothing.  But so long as they say things like plea, cooperation, Mueller, and, God-willing "the Russians", we get new giddy threads about "Flipping!!!!!", "Rolling!!!!!!" and "Muh Russia!!!!!".

Why doesn't anyone bother to question the very things I mentioned at the start of my post?  These things matter.  But not to those that shriek about "Flipping! Russia! Rolling!".
  
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Re: Just heard Manafort will cooperate (not just plead guilty)
Reply #26 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:42pm
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Manfort's cooperating with Mueller in going after Tony Podesta!   http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/14/manafort-ukraine-podesta/
  

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Re: Just heard Manafort will cooperate (not just plead guilty)
Reply #27 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:44pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
Rolling?  Flipping?  What does all this really mean?  Is "cooperating" really a synonym?

Do we even know what the charges were that he plead to?  Or the charges he was facing?  Do we know in what way he is cooperating?

Do we really know anything in terms of actual deals?

We can talk all day about some faceless "the Russians" that someone in the campaign must have interacted with, but who are these people?  What bad actions were taken by whom on the Trump side regarding their interactions with "the Russians"?

These threads and breathless articles that keep coming out are hilarious in this respect.  They end up saying almost nothing.  But so long as they say things like plea, cooperation, Mueller, and, God-willing "the Russians", we get new giddy threads about "Flipping!!!!!", "Rolling!!!!!!" and "Muh Russia!!!!!".

Why doesn't anyone bother to question the very things I mentioned at the start of my post?  These things matter.  But not to those that shriek about "Flipping! Russia! Rolling!".

Agreed. I have to wonder how long the hysteria can keep going.
  

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Reply #28 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:54pm
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The Podesta Group, and Davis-Manafort all worked together in the same time period to get this Putin linked Ukrainian elected President of Ukaine.  All three are lobbying firms.  Rick Davis was McCain's campaign manager (twice) and John Podesta left the Podesta Group just before the 2016 election to manage Hillary CLinton's campaign.  Everyone said that Trump needed to hire a professional to run his campaign and he hired Paul Manafort.  He fired him after three months and replaced him with Kellyanne Conway.

He hired a Swamp Rat of the good old boy's club.
  

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Reply #29 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 3:00pm
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And Kellyanne grew up in her grandparent's home. Her grandfather was a notorious Mafia don.
  

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