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I am willing to change my view of Kav, if....
Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:20pm
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In another thread, I offered this compromise, but (not really surprisingly, considering he was appointed purely on his ideology) no one responded. Hmmmm...


Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
Ok, let's flip this around.

Since she (Ford), to you, is obviously a liar, defaming your angelic candidate (Kav), then he should sue for defamation. He was MAD, right? If he is really innocent, then he should make sure this type of behavior does not reoccur.

If he sues, I might change my perspective. I will find it easier to believe that he truly considers himself innocent. But if he does nothing, and allows her accusation to go unchecked, then I believe he is intentionally disregarding this, as you say, horrible precedent, to deflect any further digging into his past.

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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:25pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
In another thread, I offered this compromise, but (not really surprisingly, considering he was appointed purely on his ideology) no one responded. Hmmmm...


Fair enough, but he can wait 36 years before he has to do anything, right? We'll call that the "Blasey-Ford" rule.
  

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Re: I am willing to change my view of Kav, if....
Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:34pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
In another thread, I offered this compromise, but (not really surprisingly, considering he was appointed purely on his ideology) no one responded. Hmmmm...



1. This is why the accusations made without evidence should have been disregarded from the start. This is why things like the statute of limitations exist, because there is no evidence. And to win the civil case for defamation of character, Kavanaugh would have to prove that Ford was lying. With evidence. Which no longer exists. There is no evidence either way. So the same issues with proving Kavanaugh's guilt would present themselves in proving Ford's guilt.

Again, this is why 40 year old allegations without corroborating evidence should be dismissed without evidence.

2. Probably not the best PR for the Supreme Court to have a Justice spending time suing somebody for libel or slander or whatever. It appears, even to an anarchist like me, to be petty for somebody of that standing. Imagine the media storm that would take place.
  

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K-dog would never ever do it, for the same reason Trump has never done it (despite repeated threats).  Doing so would open him up to discovery.  He was already working vigorously to suppress an investigation.  He had the opportunity to call for a full investigation into his own past, and declined to do so.  There's no indication he would change his mind now, particularly with his victory already in hand.
  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
K-dog would never ever do it, for the same reason Trump has never done it (despite repeated threats).  Doing so would open him up to discovery.  He was already working vigorously to suppress an investigation.  He had the opportunity to call for a full investigation into his own past, and declined to do so.  There's no indication he would change his mind now, particularly with his victory already in hand.





K was open for discovery by the FBI 6 times.   But she was not even once, just her hear say about everything.
  

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walkstall wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
K was open for discovery by the FBI 6 times.   But she was not even once, just her hear say about everything.


He was investigated with standard background checks.  The accusers had not yet come forward, as you know.  It would be very different in a lawsuit environment.  With the adversarial role of the lawyers, they'd have power to crawl up and down his various paper trails and social circles and would have a strong incentive to sniff down every lead.

Between these Ford allegations, the other people who've come forward, the many classmates and pals who were never interviewed, the questionable personal debts, and his proven reluctance to air anything further about his past, I highly doubt Kav would go this route.  He has already won.  I'm sure he has squared everything with his wife and kids.  If he wanted to "clear his name", he could have accepted the challenge at the hearing and called for a "full" investigation.

But hey, if he wants to re-open things now, I say let him.  I'll go make some popcorn.
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:48pm
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Guilt by allegation. The new democrat standard.
  

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Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
In another thread, I offered this compromise, but (not really surprisingly, considering he was appointed purely on his ideology) no one responded. Hmmmm...



No one cares if you change your mind about Kavanaugh. What you think is completely irrelevant. Love him, hate him, think whatever you want.
  


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forgotten centrist wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
He was investigated with standard background checks.  The accusers had not yet come forward, as you know.  It would be very different in a lawsuit environment.  With the adversarial role of the lawyers, they'd have power to crawl up and down his various paper trails and social circles and would have a strong incentive to sniff down every lead.

Between these Ford allegations, the other people who've come forward, the many classmates and pals who were never interviewed, the questionable personal debts, and his proven reluctance to air anything further about his past, I highly doubt Kav would go this route.  He has already won.  I'm sure he has squared everything with his wife and kids.  If he wanted to "clear his name", he could have accepted the challenge at the hearing and called for a "full" investigation.

But hey, if he wants to re-open things now, I say let him.  I'll go make some popcorn.


And we know that an opposing lawyer in such a lawsuit would never, ever dig up anyone that would lie about Kavanaugh, right? Roll Eyes

This narrative gets dumber by the minute.  Liberals are constantly moving the goalposts, even after Kavanaugh won the game.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember? The burden of proof is on the accuser.
  

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