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Gullibility: Wanting Something to be True So Much That You Willfully Abandon Reason
Oct 23rd, 2018 at 12:50pm
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Five proven Dead Sea Scroll forgeries only the tip of the iceberg, scholars say


The Museum of the Bible announced on Monday that five Dead Sea Scroll fragments from its collection were proven forgeries. Removed from display, these fragments may prove to be the bellwether of the Washington, DC, institution’s entire 16-piece fragment collection, and beyond.

In the wake of similar accusations, other global institutions and private collectors are now likewise struggling with how to address their own questionable fragments.

“The sellers of these fragments have preyed on the well-meaning faith of Evangelical Christians who are compelled by the idea of owning a piece of ‘the Bible that Jesus read,'” said Davis in 2017. “This is more than a simple form of manipulation,” he said. Given how seriously Evangelicals “are committed to their notion of sanctity of scripture, there is a danger of inflicting collective psychological harm.”

Since Davis’s discovery of almost certain forgeries, the Museum of the Bible and another major collector, Azusa Pacific University, have fully cooperated with his efforts to prove — or disprove — their fragments. The Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is sponsoring authentication research of its own, said Davis.

In the meantime, until further results are announced, the Museum of the Bible has removed the forgeries, and replaced them with three other items, alongside a statement explaining their questionably authentic nature.


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And the scam continues .. .









  

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Re: Gullibility: Wanting Something to be True So Much That You Willfully Abandon Reason
Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2018 at 5:21pm
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Same thing with the Turin Shroud, people continued believing it was true long after it had been proven to be a forgery from six hundred years ago, IE a bit younger that Jesus' alleged crucifixion.
  

Queshank wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 9:13am:
FC,

I've been thinking about how I can respond conversationally without coming across as a total dick.

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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:42am
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Does the existence of forgeries in the art world mean the original art work (the one on which the forgery is based) is a scam?
  

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EF wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:42am:
Does the existence of forgeries in the art world mean the original art work (the one on which the forgery is based) is a scam?


No but art is not an ideology .. and your comment assumes that the original is a known work.

  

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Fiddler wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
No but art is not an ideology .. and your comment assumes that the original is a known work.



That's a well-known trick liars often resort to.
  

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Fiddler wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
No but art is not an ideology .. and your comment assumes that the original is a known work.



So it’s your position that the original Dead Sea scrolls, found in 1947, are fakes?
  

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EF wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
So it’s your position that the original Dead Sea scrolls, found in 1947, are fakes?


Nothing I've said could be interpreted as such ..

  

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EF wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:42am:
Does the existence of forgeries in the art world mean the original art work (the one on which the forgery is based) is a scam?

Based on Fid's logic, yes.
  


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Fiddler wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 8:40am:
Nothing I've said could be interpreted as such ..



Okay.  Just trying to understand the statement you made ("the scam continues").  But never mind. 
  

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EF wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 10:51am:
Okay.  Just trying to understand the statement you made ("the scam continues").  But never mind. 


Post Council of Nicaea Christianity.. i.e. Romanized Christianity ... is the scam I was referring to.

The forgeries are the physical manifestations of the degree of gullibility necessary to abandon reason.


  

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