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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:45pm
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Wild card biggest losers: Scott Walker. Once was a rising star in the GOP. Now quickly reaching the Sarah Palinesque has-been position.
  
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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #11 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:58pm
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Trump endorsed 11 Republicans running for Governor, 31 House candidates and 13 Senate candidates....
Trump-backed candidate, Jim Renacci, has lost to Sherrod Brown in the Ohio Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Leah Vukmir, lost to Tammy Baldwin, the only out lesbian in the U.S. Senate.
Trump-backed candidate, Bob Hugin, lost to Bob Menendez in the New Jersey Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Keith Rothfus, lost to Conor Lamb and Democrats flip the district blue.
Trump-backed candidate, Patrick Morrissey, lost to Joe Manchin in the West Virginia Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Kevin Yoder, lost to Native American and openly gay attorney Sharice Davids in Kansas.
Trump-backed candidate Kris Koback lost to Laura Kelly in the race for Kansas Governor.
Trump-backed candidate, Dan Donovan, lost to Max Rose in New York's 11th congressional district.
Trump-backed candidate, Erik Paulsen, lost his MN-3 seat to Dean Phillips despite Trump's "Strong Endorsement."
Trump-backed candidate, Randy Hultgren, lost his seat in Illinois' 14th congressional district to Lauren Underwood.
Trump-backed candidate, John James, lost the race for U.S. Senator to Debbie Stabenow, in Michigan.
Trump-backed candidate, Rod Blum, lost to 29-year-old Abby Finkenauer in Iowa.
Trump-backed candidate, John Cox, lost heavily to Gavin Newson for the California Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Dave Brat, loses to Abigail Spanberger in VA.
Trump-backed candidate, John Faso, loses big to Antonio Delgado in New York's 19th congressional district. Trump implied Delgado was a pro-Iran terrorist because he is black.
Trump-backed, "very special" Scott Walker lost re-election bid for Wisconsin Governor. No big box of "uncounted ballots" found at the last moment in the basement of the Waukesha municipal building this election!
Trump-backed Danny Tarkanian gets crushed by Democrat Susie Lee in Nevada's 3rd congressional district, making him the 20th Trump endorsement to lose.
Trump-backed candidate, Lena Epstein, loses to Democrat Haley Stevens in MI.
Trump-backed candidate, Katie Arrington, loses in SC.
Trump-backed candidate, Walker Stapleton, loses Colorado Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Bill Schuette, loses big to Gretchen Witmer, the new Democratic Governor of Michigan.
Trump-backed candidates, Dean Heller and Adam Laxalt, both lost in Nevada.
Trump-backed candidate, Jeff Johnson, lost in Minnesota Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Karen Handel, lost her House seat to Democrat Lucy McBath in GA.
Trump-backed candidate, Dana Rohrabacher, loses his seat to "super liberal" Harley Rouda in CA.




Yes, huge victory for the Orangutan.
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:03pm
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A roaring economy certainly didn't hurt and if it's still on fire in two years, Trump will win reelection.
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:08pm
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
A roaring economy certainly didn't hurt and if it's still on fire in two years, Trump will win reelection.


That is a big "if"!
  

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Reply #14 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:14pm
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Queshank wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:33am:
...But it shouldn't pass unnoticed that the Trump wing of the Trumplican party just got purified and a hell of a lot stronger. The Trumplican wing of the House just got a hell of a lot more unified through a purging of moderate and establishment candidates. 

Didn't several of his endorsed candidates lose?

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Third? I would say Beto.... He helped deliver Republican held House seats in Texas to the Democrats. Not just helped, but it could be argued if not for him they wouldn't have even been in contention.

Not so much. The Democrats picked up two Congressional seats in districts which Hillary won in 2016. Same for the 2 Texas Senate seats (one of which has been a swing district since 2010); however, they didn't pick up the third senate seat. And the same for the Texas House seats they picked up. In short, those seats were going to be competitive, and probably won, by Democrats regardless of Beto.
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Reply #15 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:37pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
That is a big "if"!


What? Nine years of growth and he only needs two more! Surely we'll be north of 30K in the DOW and unemployment south of 4%...what can possibly happen between now and 2020?  Grin
  

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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #16 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:55pm
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Queshank wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:33am:
The big winner last night...

Pollsters. The polls were for the most part dead on with the election results last night.


I agree and will add that because of this, the American psyche is a big winner too. Part of the tremendous emotional upheaval that upset our country in 2016 was not that Trump won, but that he won when the media had been telling us for a year that Hillary was going to be the President.

Having an election go more or less as predicted does not make for interesting news broadcasts, but it does make for a more peaceful atmosphere.

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Second biggest winner? Donald Trump. If anyone disagrees I can expand on why I think that. But it shouldn't pass unnoticed that the Trump wing of the Trumplican party just got purified and a hell of a lot stronger. The Trumplican wing of the House just got a hell of a lot more unified through a purging of moderate and establishment candidates.   And I think Trump's chances of re election went from about 97% to 110% certainty.


I think Trump and the Dems more or less tied. They both did what they had to do and not much more.

Trump had to keep the Senate. There are far, far too many Republicans who voted for him specifically and only because of judicial nominees. If he had lost that, he would have lost too large portion of his voters. If he were forced to put a moderate on the bench, he'd be toast.

The Dems had to win the House. If they couldn't pull off what has happened in every mid-term election since 2006 (turning over at least one chamber of Congress), they'd be toast.

They both got what they needed, but not much more than that.

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Third? I would say Beto. He didn't win. But he set himself up to be a major player and kingmaker. He helped deliver Republican held House seats in Texas to the Democrats. Not just helped, but it could be argued if not for him they wouldn't have even been in contention.


I'll pretty surprised if he doesn't run for POTUS or VPOTUS.

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...That shit does not matter at all. But I bet is the focus of all conversation for people on the left when they're not talking about Trump's tax returns or impeachment.

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Paying attention to the race or gender of a candidate doesn't seem to matter as much as it used to. This is a good thing.

Overall, pretty much a balanced election. The House and Senate are both fairly purple and will likely stay that way for a long time.
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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #17 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 4:02pm
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Maestro wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 3:55pm:
I agree and will add that because of this, the American psyche is a big winner too. Part of the tremendous emotional upheaval that upset our country in 2016 was not that Trump won, but that he won when the media had been telling us for a year that Hillary was going to be the President.

Having an election go more or less as predicted does not make for interesting news broadcasts, but it does make for a more peaceful atmosphere.


I think Trump and the Dems more or less tied. They both did what they had to do and not much more.

Trump had to keep the Senate. There are far, far too many Republicans who voted for him specifically and only because of judicial nominees. If he had lost that, he would have lost too large portion of his voters. If he were forced to put a moderate on the bench, he'd be toast.

The Dems had to win the House. If they couldn't pull off what has happened in every mid-term election since 2006 (turning over at least one chamber of Congress), they'd be toast.

They both got what they needed, but not much more than that.


I'll pretty surprised if he doesn't run for POTUS or VPOTUS.


Paying attention to the race or gender of a candidate doesn't seem to matter as much as it used to. This is a good thing.

Overall, pretty much a balanced election. The House and Senate are both fairly purple and will likely stay that way for a long time.


Nice assessment, Maestro!  Smiley
  


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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #18 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 4:19pm
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Please, tell us all about Trump being a big winner last night.


Twit you obviously missed my post where I wrote neither side really won big last night and went in to explain why.

More of your partisan bs.
  
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Re: The big winner last night ...
Reply #19 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 4:50pm
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Trump endorsed 11 Republicans running for Governor, 31 House candidates and 13 Senate candidates....
Trump-backed candidate, Jim Renacci, has lost to Sherrod Brown in the Ohio Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Leah Vukmir, lost to Tammy Baldwin, the only out lesbian in the U.S. Senate.
Trump-backed candidate, Bob Hugin, lost to Bob Menendez in the New Jersey Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Keith Rothfus, lost to Conor Lamb and Democrats flip the district blue.
Trump-backed candidate, Patrick Morrissey, lost to Joe Manchin in the West Virginia Senate race.
Trump-backed candidate, Kevin Yoder, lost to Native American and openly gay attorney Sharice Davids in Kansas.
Trump-backed candidate Kris Koback lost to Laura Kelly in the race for Kansas Governor.
Trump-backed candidate, Dan Donovan, lost to Max Rose in New York's 11th congressional district.
Trump-backed candidate, Erik Paulsen, lost his MN-3 seat to Dean Phillips despite Trump's "Strong Endorsement."
Trump-backed candidate, Randy Hultgren, lost his seat in Illinois' 14th congressional district to Lauren Underwood.
Trump-backed candidate, John James, lost the race for U.S. Senator to Debbie Stabenow, in Michigan.
Trump-backed candidate, Rod Blum, lost to 29-year-old Abby Finkenauer in Iowa.
Trump-backed candidate, John Cox, lost heavily to Gavin Newson for the California Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Dave Brat, loses to Abigail Spanberger in VA.
Trump-backed candidate, John Faso, loses big to Antonio Delgado in New York's 19th congressional district. Trump implied Delgado was a pro-Iran terrorist because he is black.
Trump-backed, "very special" Scott Walker lost re-election bid for Wisconsin Governor. No big box of "uncounted ballots" found at the last moment in the basement of the Waukesha municipal building this election!
Trump-backed Danny Tarkanian gets crushed by Democrat Susie Lee in Nevada's 3rd congressional district, making him the 20th Trump endorsement to lose.
Trump-backed candidate, Lena Epstein, loses to Democrat Haley Stevens in MI.
Trump-backed candidate, Katie Arrington, loses in SC.
Trump-backed candidate, Walker Stapleton, loses Colorado Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Bill Schuette, loses big to Gretchen Witmer, the new Democratic Governor of Michigan.
Trump-backed candidates, Dean Heller and Adam Laxalt, both lost in Nevada.
Trump-backed candidate, Jeff Johnson, lost in Minnesota Governorship.
Trump-backed candidate, Karen Handel, lost her House seat to Democrat Lucy McBath in GA.
Trump-backed candidate, Dana Rohrabacher, loses his seat to "super liberal" Harley Rouda in CA.




Yes, huge victory for the Orangutan.


Because you are looking at this in the context of putting points on a scoreboard.

I am looking at this in the context of balances of power.

When I said the Trump coalition has been purified, I am talking about the forces known as "Republicans" now.  They're no longer Trumplicans and Republicans.  They're just Republicans. 

You and Demos both are talking in terms of the Democrats taking out moderate Republicans.  I am too.  The moderate Republicans are gone.  It doesn't matter how many Trump backed candidates lost to Democrats.  What matters is the Republicans who remain are for the most part Trumplicans.  And there are still a lot of them.  And many of them owe their positions to Trump.

Same deal in the Senate.  Many of those senators now owe their political careers to him.

I was going to post earlier before I got busy but the first thing we should expect to see is Jeff Sessions pushed out.  The news it had already happened beat me to it. 

Trump doesn't just have free reign of judges now.  He has free reign for cabinet appointments as well.

Trump won big last night.  The Democrats solidified themselves even more in 2018 as the "establishment" party.  It's where the "establishment" Republicans have fled.  And not a lot of hard leftists won in competitive areas.  The perfect foil for Trump.

What are the Democrats in the House going to do?  What legislation are they going to pass?  Oooh they're going to call for more investigations.  Those investigations and their cries of impeachment didn't do much to secure them any wins last night.  The tiny margins of victory in many of these contested districts don't give the Democrats a lot of room to go tilting at windmills and keep their patchwork coalition of socialists and identity politics activists and "establishment" Republican and Demoratic moderates together for another two years.

You'll see.  If not in the next few months, then in 2021 when Trump is being inaugurated for a 2nd term.  Leftists need to stop thinking putting points on a scoreboard means shit.  Keeping the fans buying tickets to the game is what matters.

Queshank
  

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