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Genius argument against anchor babies/14th Amendment
Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:11pm
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Trump declares all pregnant migrant women, legal and illegal, as two.  He recognizes the foetus as a citizen of the mother's home country, requiring identification.

In other words, he declares the baby alive at conception, so the child can not be considered born here.  This will require evidence that the baby was conceived here.
  

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Re: Genius argument against anchor babies/14th Amendment
Reply #1 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:17pm
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Frenchconnection wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
Trump declares all pregnant migrant women, legal and illegal, as two.  He recognizes the foetus as a citizen of the mother's home country, requiring identification.

In other words, he declares the baby alive at conception, so the child can not be considered born here.  This will require evidence that the baby was conceived here.


Won't work.  In fact, that's pretty dumb.

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That's actually pretty funny.  Trump is going to sign an executive order to change the definition of the word "conceived" to "born".  How dumb is that?

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Re: Genius argument against anchor babies/14th Amendment
Reply #3 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:52pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:20pm:
That's actually pretty funny.  Trump is going to sign an executive order to change the definition of the word "conceived" to "born".  How dumb is that?

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I don’t care where the baby was conceived. If the parents are not American, neither is the child. When are you liberals going to wise up. Do you or don’t you have a country? Or are you just a living thing on the planet?

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Good night. Gym tomorrow. Trying to get up early these days.



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Reply #5 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 2:02am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
Won't work.  In fact, that's pretty dumb.

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Greggy, .. please explain = How can an 'illegal alien' who got into America illegally, how can they confer 'U.S. citizenship' on their children, when they themselves arrived in America illegally? Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 5:51am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
Won't work.  In fact, that's pretty dumb.

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Where's the "fact"?
  
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Re: Genius argument against anchor babies/14th Amendment
Reply #7 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 6:20am
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Legally the courts have already ruled that in utero a fetus is a human. that’s not what’s debated. It’s the mother’s right to end the life that is debated.

It is why killing a pregnant woman is a double homicide.

So part of what you are proposing is already in place. The issue would be establishing citizenship at conception.

It would seem far more reasonable to assume your citizenship flows from your parents versus the geography on which you were born. If my pregnant mother is American and I happen to be born in Germany during her taking a trip there, I think most would agree I’m American
  
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Frenchconnection wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
Trump declares all pregnant migrant women, legal and illegal, as two.  He recognizes the foetus as a citizen of the mother's home country, requiring identification.

In other words, he declares the baby alive at conception, so the child can not be considered born here.  This will require evidence that the baby was conceived here.

Under this theory can the mother be arrested for smuggling?
  

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Wallyanna Bullish for America wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 6:40am:
Under this theory can the mother be arrested for smuggling?


Kidnapping...   Grin

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