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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #20 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:55pm:
Or perhaps all the people who lived through the worst bits of it died. So many died in WWII.

Or if they survived they were Russian. And we didn't hear about the after-effects.

The Americans were always the hunters in WWII. Well, not always, but you get the drift.


Good point.  I imagine the dead suffer a great deal from PTSD, but they keep it to themselves so not many studies think to include it.

I wonder if the PTSD following the 20th Century hasn't just become a part of the Russian culture.

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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #21 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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Possibly in part because PTSD wasn't a recognized syndrome in the WWII era.

When people had problems, it was called "shell shock".

Remember the scene in the film Patton? The general is touring a hospital ward. Came across a seemingly healthy soldier in a bed. He asked why the guy was there. The doctors told him, essentially, "Shell shock". The soldier started to cry, and Patton lost it, hit him across the face with his glove, and told him basically to be a man and get back out there. Patton got a LOT of bad press over that, even though PTSD wasn't a widely known issue at the time.

I think, also, we didn't have high rate of fire consumer grade rifles available, like the AR-15. Those make it a lot easier for some PTSD deranged person to take out a lot of souls.
  

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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #22 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:00pm
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Queshank wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
I wonder if the PTSD following the 20th Century hasn't just become a part of the Russian culture.

I had the same thought as I typed the previous post.
  

Wadsworth wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
You are awfully concerned about who gets to live.  Why is it so important to you?
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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #23 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:04pm
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admin wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
- may reduce at least some?

No, I doubt it.  TV does not sell or manufacture large capacity mags or weapons of mass distruction.
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #24 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:05pm
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Ulysses wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
Possibly in part because PTSD wasn't a recognized syndrome in the WWII era.

When people had problems, it was called "shell shock".

Remember the scene in the film Patton? The general is touring a hospital ward. Came across a seemingly healthy soldier in a bed. He asked why the guy was there. The doctors told him, essentially, "Shell shock". The soldier started to cry, and Patton lost it, hit him across the face with his glove, and told him basically to be a man and get back out there. Patton got a LOT of bad press over that, even though PTSD wasn't a widely known issue at the time.

I think, also, we didn't have high rate of fire consumer grade rifles available, like the AR-15. Those make it a lot easier for some PTSD deranged person to take out a lot of souls.

The M1 Garand is a very, very good semi-automatic rifle with a standard 8 round clip.

Your theory is that would-be psychopaths were thinking "I could probably take out 15 people with this M1. Nah. Not worth it. If there were a rifle which was fed a clip with more rounds, then I could take out 30. I'll just sit here and play boardgames instead."
  

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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #25 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:11pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:05pm:
The M1 Garand is a very, very good semi-automatic rifle with a standard 8 round clip.

Your theory is that would-be psychopaths were thinking "I could probably take out 15 people with this M1. Nah. Not worth it. If there were a rifle which was fed a clip with more rounds, then I could take out 30. I'll just sit here and play boardgames instead."


Well, that's the type of thinking I hope Stu and Jas have...

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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #26 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Yes, semi autos are nothing new. Garlands, Remington 740/742 etc. clips are easily modified to make the as big as you want.

Some interesting observations. Probably all play a part.
  
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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #27 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:26pm
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Well we did have mass murder with semi or fully automatic weapons before WWII. Mostly from Trump Crime Family associates, also known as The Mob.

  

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Reply #28 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:31pm
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We are a softer nation today than yesterday. More pampered, spoiled and sensitive.
  


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Re: PTSD - why not so much after wwii
Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm
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Jasmine wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:31pm:
We are a softer nation today than yesterday. More pampered, spoiled and sensitive.

"History is only the pattern of silken slippers descending the stairs to the thunder of hobnailed boots climbing upward from below." - Voltaire

There's a lot of truth to this. And there's also a lot of truth to the idea that it's better to actually live on the silken slipper side of things.
  

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