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Re: overview of "this Russia thing"
Reply #50 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 4:51pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 11:35am:


Grin

The Donald wasn't allowed to play with his friends!

jus_cogens2 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 2:41pm:
This is a good rundown (except it doesn't note that Carter Page has been on the radar of the intel community for some time, which made it a concern when he became connected to the campaign; and there was the change in the GOP platform at the convention in Russia's favor re: Ukraine).

But I think the most important thing to keep in mind is the overall context in which all of this has been occurring.

These are the top 2 key judgements from the DNI's report on Russia's election meddling in 2016, emphasis mine:


This is important because at the end of the day, at least for those of us that actually care about this country, our values, and our preeminent role in the world, this is not about Trump. This is about defending against, and making Russia pay for its actions to undermine us and the global rules and relationships that we've built over the past 70 years. And to the extent that Trump or anyone around him, wittingly or unwittingly, contributed to the significant escalation against us described in that bolded part above, then we should get to the bottom of it, and hold anyone responsible accountable. Since Russia's actions in 2016 were just a continuation of their efforts to undermine and weaken us, this is not just about the 2016 election. It's about figuring out the ways in which Russia had been successful in its most ambitious intelligence operation in modern Russian history and ensuring that they can't do it again.

Also, hello! I used to post under the name jus cogens here way back when every discussion was the Iraq war.


Great post and welcome back!

I remember the handle. The tone and point of your post reinforced that remembrance.
  

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Re: overview of "this Russia thing"
Reply #51 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:13am
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Seawolf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 4:39pm:
But your girl Hillary has, as well a Bill the perv.


Flung enough poo yet?
  

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Re: overview of "this Russia thing"
Reply #52 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:19pm
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Seawolf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 3:19pm:
His staff has been looked at closely.  Care to show me otherwise?  I am open for correction to my remarks, are you?  Seems that we only debate to prove how right we are or how wrong the other person is rather then an actual discussion about the facts we do have to openly discuss.


From what I read there are 4 or so people on his team that either have no affiliation or it is not publicly available.

Plus of course Mueller is a Republican.

So how does that equate to all the people on his team are Dem's when the info isn't even available for the whole team?
  

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Wadsworth wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 4:13pm:
Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.

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Re: overview of "this Russia thing"
Reply #53 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 7:13am
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used to post under the name jus cogens here way back when every discussion was the Iraq war.


And what have you learned?
  

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un·known quan·ti·ty
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a person or thing whose nature, value, or significance cannot be determined or is not yet known.
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