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Are those on the left the biggest racists
Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:44pm
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I keep reading these threads with leftist/Marxist themes. The inherent belief seems to be that some are just “anointed” with special gifts that enable them to become wealthy, and on that “given not earned” basis those who achieve success must give a great share of it to others.

Presumably out of some “moral greater than ourselves” framework - but it seems most on the left don’t believe in a higher “god”

So are they simply racist -  believing some are just inherently better than others
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:47pm
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None of that makes any sense and has nothing to do with racism.
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Wadsworth wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
and has nothing to do with racism.



Hold the calls..  We have a winner .. .

  

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Wadsworth wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
None of that makes any sense and has nothing to do with racism.


So you don’t belief govt should be able to make some pay more than others on the basis of one’s wealth  if you do believe that, what’s your basis?
  
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Re: Are those on the left the biggest racists
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petep wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
So you don’t belief govt should be able to make some pay more than others on the basis of one’s wealth  if you do believe that, what’s your basis?


What does that have to do with race?  You haven't made that connection.
  

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petep wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
So you don’t belief govt should be able to make some pay more than others on the basis of one’s wealth  if you do believe that, what’s your basis?

I never said that I don't beleive that the govt. should be able to make some pay more than others.  To the contrary. Even without the latest research. Having such a vast and growing divide between the very rich and the average is highly damaging to democracy, apart from anything else, as the rich have increasing capacity to buy political influence - and they are using it.
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Wadsworth wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
I never said that I don't beleive that the govt. should be able to make some pay more than others.  To the contrary. Even without this latest research. Having such a vast and growing divide between the very rich and the average is highly damaging to democracy, apart from anything else, as the rich have increasing capacity to buy political influence - and they are using it.


I’d argue in many respects it’s the opposite. The wealthy pay the vast vast majority of the taxes. Heck half pay nothing into the federal system and live off others for all govt funded expenses.

I would agree that lobbying groups on behalf of big industry like pharma and chem fertilizers and pesticides own the politicians. But on both sides.

But almost every wealthy individual I know and can think of made it thru hard work. Why should they have to give up more than another.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:29pm
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Racists believe that some races are inherently better than others. DNA, whatever. Just better.

Socialists and marxists promote this notion of from those with ability to those with need. Not a short term basis charity idea, but long term.



  
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petep wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
I’d argue in many respects it’s the opposite. The wealthy pay the vast vast majority of the taxes. Heck half pay nothing into the federal system and live off others for all govt funded expenses.

I would agree that lobbying groups on behalf of big industry like pharma and chem fertilizers and pesticides own the politicians. But on both sides.

But almost every wealthy individual I know and can think of made it thru hard work. Why should they have to give up more than another.

You may know well to do and the upper middle class, but the very rich is whom I am talking about.
  

Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
The average person is going to starve and die.

Thus has it always been with humanity, before the advent of the Great Society.

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Re: Are those on the left the biggest racists
Reply #9 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:37pm
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petep wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:29pm:
Racists believe that some races are inherently better than others. DNA, whatever. Just better.

Socialists and marxists promote this notion of from those with ability to those with need. Not a short term basis charity idea, but long term.

If you hold that individuals vary in their abilities, is that racist?

I don't believe so.
  

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