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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:38pm
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Limey. wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Nah. The wrath of the citizenry is already happening. Don't forget that the vote was very close indeed - so, the wrath of the Brexit dickheads is at least balanced by the wrath of the Remainers. We are seriously angry about this shambles.

What's happening is an unholy mess.

Most of the problem is the fantastical fearmongering and distortions that led to pressure for Brexit in the first place. Most of the rest of the problem is the dreadful, catastrophic incompetence of our previous PM and his Party in seeking their own short term and narrow interests be served ahead of the interests of the country.


It is indescribably bad leadership.


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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:38pm
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Waking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:38pm:
Operation Sea Lion two point oh oh!   Roll Eyes



Hm.


Seelöwe was a fantasy.


I know that you have a right wing perspective,  but also that you aren't a complete partisan.


Brexit is a bad idea; the EU is flawed; barely controlled immigration is problematic; European integration is a counter to war-like tendencies; the EU favours authoritarian voices sometimes; Anti democracy forces dislike the EU;


....none of the above are untrue but different factions won't accept some or all.
  

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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:47pm
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Limey. wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:38pm:
Hm.


Seelöwe was a fantasy.


I know that you have a right wing perspective,  but also that you aren't a complete partisan.


Brexit is a bad idea; the EU is flawed; barely controlled immigration is problematic; European integration is a counter to war-like tendencies; the EU favours authoritarian voices sometimes; Anti democracy forces dislike the EU;


....none of the above are untrue but different factions won't accept some or all.

Conquering England has been the goal of many European nations throughout history.  It also takes an Empire to do this though and an unwillingness on the part of the British people to defend their nations.  I really do wish you well.  We have our troubles, but none of them are as great as those faced by Great Britain and the member states of the EU. The EU, like the UN and even the League of Nations, before that, were futile attempts to make wars less likely.  I think the opposite may be true and the mismanagement and corruption of Neo-Marxist European State is actually making war far more likely and when it does occur far more widespread.
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:51pm
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Ulysses wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:56am:
Good.

Putin's diabolical plan  foiled.

We must dismiss the results of democracy in order to stand heroically against undemocratic forces!
  

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Reply #14 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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The UK should simply disregard the EU. The arrogance of the EU is probably one reason the Brits want to pull out. What, is the EU going to force the British to stay?

This is like any international organization (such as the UN) trying to tell the U.S. what it can and cannot do. We are a sovereign nation and are not ever beholden to any international body.
  


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Reply #15 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:43pm
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Jasmine wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
The UK should simply disregard the EU. The arrogance of the EU is probably one reason the Brits want to pull out. What, is the EU going to force the British to stay?



The Brits don't want to pull out.

36% of the Brits want to pull out.

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This is like any international organization (such as the UN) trying to tell the U.S. what it can and cannot do. We are a sovereign nation and are not ever beholden to any international body.



The EU is a club, with rules.

Like one of those funny American sports- baseball or whatever- if you're in a league you need to accept the commonly agreed rules, or you can't play.

If you want different rules, your delegate to the governing body can argue that,  and attempt to persuade others.


Saying that the American Baseball Federation or whatever it's called is tyrannical would be silly.

The EU is a trade organisation with membership rules.
  

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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:44pm
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Waking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
Conquering England has been the goal of many European nations throughout history.  It also takes an Empire to do this though and an unwillingness on the part of the British people to defend their nations.  I really do wish you well.  We have our troubles, but none of them are as great as those faced by Great Britain and the member states of the EU. The EU, like the UN and even the League of Nations, before that, were futile attempts to make wars less likely.  I think the opposite may be true and the mismanagement and corruption of Neo-Marxist European State is actually making war far more likely and when it does occur far more widespread.



I think you have swallowed the pretend version of the Brexit debate.
  

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Limey. wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
The Brits don't want to pull out.

36% of the Brits want to pull out.


Bill Clinton won the 1992 Presidential election with 43% of the vote. He still became president. Did the Brexiters not win the vote?


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The EU is a club, with rules.

Like one of those funny American sports- baseball or whatever- if you're in a league you need to accept the commonly agreed rules, or you can't play.

If you want different rules, your delegate to the governing body can argue that,  and attempt to persuade others.


Saying that the American Baseball Federation or whatever it's called is tyrannical would be silly.

The EU is a trade organisation with membership rules.

What club forces its members to stay a member?

A sports league is a body that comes to existence, and then it chooses its teams. The EU is a bunch of countries that existed on their own before the EU was formed.

Limey, do you think a country should be required to obey a U.N. directive?
  


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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 9:10pm
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Jasmine wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Bill Clinton won the 1992 Presidential election with 43% of the vote. He still became president. Did the Brexiters not win the vote?



Indeed they did, the moronic mouthbreathers.

I've never suggested otherwise.  I do correct those posters who make inaccurate claims about the vote.

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The EU isn't doing that.

We can, and likely will,  exit the EU with or without a deal


The EU would like us to stay.


They've no realistic mechanism for doing  so.

A sports league is a body that comes to existence, and then it chooses its teams. The EU is a bunch of countries that existed on their own before the EU was formed.

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Reply #19 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 9:14pm
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Limey. wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
Indeed they did, the moronic mouthbreathers.

I've never suggested otherwise.  I do correct those posters who make inaccurate claims about the vote.

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The EU isn't doing that.

We can, and likely will,  exit the EU with or without a deal


The EU would like us to stay.


They've no realistic mechanism for doing  so.

A sports league is a body that comes to existence, and then it chooses its teams. The EU is a bunch of countries that existed on their own before the EU was formed.

Limey, do you think a country should be required to obey a U.N. directive?

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I can understand your distaste for Brexit. You have an emotional tie to your country, and rightfully so.

For me, I celebrate Brexit because I support sovereignty over international homogenuity. I don't like international bodies that think they can tell individual nations what to do.
  


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