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what's going on in Wisconsin?
Dec 6th, 2018 at 10:13am
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Multiple news articles in the past 2 days.

The state legislature, controlled by republicans, is moving a bill to cut the governor's power -- before the newly elected democratic governor can take office.  They are also pushing approvals of Scott Walker's appointees at a furious pace -- 82 in one day.

They say they are doing this because the legislature is the most representative part of the state government, and they want that reflected in the power structure.  But those state legislature districts have all been gerrymandered.  Democrats won far more votes than republicans, but still hold a distinct minority in the chamber.  Doesn't sound representative to me.

Also, Mitch McConnell set a precedent for holding off on appointments and the like until after elections, to let the peoples' voice be heard.  Doesn't sound like anyone is being heard, here.
  

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Re: what's going on in Wisconsin?
Reply #1 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 10:14am
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What's going on is the people voted in Democrats and the Republicans are scheming to hold on to power.

Very simple.

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Reply #2 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 11:18am
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If something illegal is being done I’m sure charges will be filed.
  
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petep wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 11:18am:
If something illegal is being done I’m sure charges will be filed.


Yes.. Because ethics has been banned from right-wing governing..

  

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Re: what's going on in Wisconsin?
Reply #4 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:27pm
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Illegal?  Maybe not.  Undemocratic?  Absolutely.

It's a pattern of abuse -- gerrymander the districts, suppress voting, disenfranchise voters, make recess appointments when your guy is in office and block them when the other guy is.  Basically -- change the rules as often as needed to preserve minority control of government.
  

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Re: what's going on in Wisconsin?
Reply #5 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:44pm
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It's not really much different than all the executive orders Obama signed on his way out the door to try to block development in certain areas and to preserve his "legacy."

Which Trump then immediately undid to universal criticism for undoing Obama's "legacy" because he's either A- Jealous or B- Racist, you pick.

All the people of Wisconsin have to do is exactly what the people of the United States did.  Elect people who will undo them.

It is, after all, what Republicans did in the 90s to overcome decades of Democratic gerrymandering.  It's not like there's not precedent.

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Queshank wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
It's not really much different than all the executive orders Obama signed on his way out the door to try to block development in certain areas and to preserve his "legacy."

Which Trump then immediately undid to universal criticism for undoing Obama's "legacy" because he's either A- Jealous or B- Racist, you pick.

All the people of Wisconsin have to do is exactly what the people of the United States did.  Elect people who will undo them.

It is, after all, what Republicans did in the 90s to overcome decades of Democratic gerrymandering.  It's not like there's not precedent.

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Waking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
or "C" Trump has been delivering on the campaign promises he made to the voters who elected him!  We are not Jealous or Racist.  We have a far different view of what is good for America and what is not...and elections have consequences!


But that's just the point, here.  Republicans are fighting to subvert the elections.  They might have said "Walker lost, deal with it", but instead they are using a lame duck session to oppose the will of the people, as expressed in the election.
  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
But that's just the point, here.  Republicans are fighting to subvert the elections.  They might have said "Walker lost, deal with it", but instead they are using a lame duck session to oppose the will of the people, as expressed in the election.


Yeah.

Like Obama did.

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Re: what's going on in Wisconsin?
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forgotten centrist wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
But that's just the point, here.  Republicans are fighting to subvert the elections.  They might have said "Walker lost, deal with it", but instead they are using a lame duck session to oppose the will of the people, as expressed in the election.

Democrats and Republicans typically play whatever political games they can get away with.  I am not all that familiar with what state laws say in Wisconsin regarding such obvious political shananagns, but it's really up to the people of that state to hash things out.  If it's legal, oh well, politics ain't bean bags!
  

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