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Reply #10 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:09pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:03pm:
admin, you are nuts if you think Dems don't want border security. They do. What they don't want is to be told how to do it by someone unqualified to make that kind of assessment.

There WAS an agreement between both sides, but that was not good enough for Trump. Why should one person, totally unqualified, get to overrule the hundreds of other people, all duly elected, who were ready to make a deal? Because he's pres? Then I guess it was ok for Obama to put through ACA, right?

You can't have it both ways.

How long have Pelosi and Schumer been in Congress? They have had decades to fix the problem.
  



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Reply #11 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:17pm
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Oh the Hypocrisy Jane wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
How long have Pelosi and Schumer been in Congress? They have had decades to fix the problem.


Wow, you bought what he said hook, line, and sinker.
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:25pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Wow, you bought what he said hook, line, and sinker.

How long have they been in congress?
  



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Reply #13 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:29pm
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
CBP want the wall. Are they unqualified?


Really? Show me.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 11:17pm
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Reply #15 - Jan 8th, 2019 at 11:21pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 10:29pm:
Really? Show me.


Mark Morgan, who served as chief of the Border Patrol during the Obama administration, explained Monday on Fox News the practicality of a border wall.

President Donald Trump insists a wall be built on the U.S.-Mexico border to maintain national security.

What did Morgan say?
Speaking with Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Morgan was frank about the effectiveness of border barriers.

"Yes, they absolutely work," Morgan said, noting that before Trump became president, increased border security measures enjoyed bipartisan support.

"If you look in the past, you don't have to go too far back in history that bipartisan legislation that was passed, the Secure Fence Act. In 2006 and 2016, bipartisan legislation passed where they built the wall or fence or physical barrier — whatever you want to call it," he explained.

"It's a wall — it works," Morgan emphasized.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/obama-border-patrol-chief-reveals-truth-about-bord...

  

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Reply #16 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:01am
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Abe wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 11:21pm:
Mark Morgan, who served as chief of the Border Patrol during the Obama administration, explained Monday on Fox News the practicality of a border wall.

President Donald Trump insists a wall be built on the U.S.-Mexico border to maintain national security.

What did Morgan say?
Speaking with Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Morgan was frank about the effectiveness of border barriers.

"Yes, they absolutely work," Morgan said, noting that before Trump became president, increased border security measures enjoyed bipartisan support.

"If you look in the past, you don't have to go too far back in history that bipartisan legislation that was passed, the Secure Fence Act. In 2006 and 2016, bipartisan legislation passed where they built the wall or fence or physical barrier — whatever you want to call it," he explained.

"It's a wall — it works," Morgan emphasized.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/obama-border-patrol-chief-reveals-truth-about-bord...



You did it, you found one person. I've looked him up, and he's just one dude. He did not endorse the wall during Obama's presidency, but now he does. Yippee do.

So wait, if I find one Trump ally who does NOT support the wall, then do I get equal credibility?

https://www.pressrepublican.com/cnhi_network/trump-faces-scathing-criticism-from...
  
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Reply #17 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:07am
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And even Fox, the most friendly to Trump, cited his exaggerations and outright lies.

Trump is playing you.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-gets-instant-fact-check-from-fox-news-shepar...
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:11am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:07am:
And even Fox, the most friendly to Trump, cited his exaggerations and outright lies.

Trump is playing you.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-gets-instant-fact-check-from-fox-news-shepar...

And the democrats aren't, right? The democrats who until recently supported Trump's immigration policies. Who's getting played?
  



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Reply #19 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:40am
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Oh the Hypocrisy Jane wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:11am:
And the democrats aren't, right? The democrats who until recently supported Trump's immigration policies. Who's getting played?


That's a straw man.

We are talking about the wall. ONLY the wall.

Trump is arguing that a down vote of the wall is a down vote of border security. That is a false equivalency. He's hijacking border security to please his base.

Look, let's debate it. Let's get a bunch of experts to determine if the wall is a good idea. If it is, I will support funding it. But Trump is not an expert, and on his recommendation alone, I will not endorse his wall. Why are you opposed to getting our government back up and running and making good choices for border security as well. Why is an actual wall so darn important to you.
  
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