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Reply #20 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:44am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:40am:
That's a straw man.

We are talking about the wall. ONLY the wall.

Trump is arguing that a down vote of the wall is a down vote of border security. That is a false equivalency. He's hijacking border security to please his base.

Look, let's debate it. Let's get a bunch of experts to determine if the wall is a good idea. If it is, I will support funding it. But Trump is not an expert, and on his recommendation alone, I will not endorse his wall. Why are you opposed to getting our government back up and running and making good choices for border security as well. Why is an actual wall so darn important to you.

The democrats have not ignored the problem to please their base?

How long have Pelosi and Schumer been in congress? You keep dodging that question.
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:53am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:40am:
That's a straw man.

We are talking about the wall. ONLY the wall.

Trump is arguing that a down vote of the wall is a down vote of border security. That is a false equivalency. He's hijacking border security to please his base.

Look, let's debate it. Let's get a bunch of experts to determine if the wall is a good idea. If it is, I will support funding it. But Trump is not an expert, and on his recommendation alone, I will not endorse his wall. Why are you opposed to getting our government back up and running and making good choices for border security as well. Why is an actual wall so darn important to you.


Trump has built buildings and properties all over the world, and plenty of walls.  He knows a hundred times more about the issue than the leftwingers in congress, and a thousand times more than you do.   Wink
  
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Reply #22 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:03am
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Peaches wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:44am:
The democrats have not ignored the problem to please their base?

How long have Pelosi and Schumer been in congress? You keep dodging that question.


Hmm, didn't Trump's speech tonight talk about Schumer's vote for a wall in the past?

I did not answer because blaming everything on them is another straw man. One party does not make things happen. It takes both, and both are at fault for not being willing to compromise.

But let's flip this around. You say there is a border crisis (if you believe Trump). Are you willing to even consider that there isn't one?
  
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Reply #23 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:05am
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patrick2 wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 12:53am:
Trump has built buildings and properties all over the world, and plenty of walls.  He knows a hundred times more about the issue than the leftwingers in congress, and a thousand times more than you do.   Wink


Trump is one of the least knowledgeable people I have ever heard. He's not quite as painful to listen to as baby bush, but close. You disagree, I get it, when I hear him, I hear bigotry, I hear stupidity, I hear close-mindedness. These are all signs of a lack of intelligence to me.
  
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Reply #24 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:09am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:03am:
Hmm, didn't Trump's speech tonight talk about Schumer's vote for a wall in the past?


Why yes he did. Why has Schumer's position changed? Why has Pelosi's?  Could it be politics?

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I did not answer because blaming everything on them is another straw man. One party does not make things happen. It takes both, and both are at fault for not being willing to compromise.


You need to do a better job of articulating that because so far all your posts make you look like a lifelong partisan democrat.


  

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Reply #25 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:20am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Trump is one of the least knowledgeable people I have ever heard. He's not quite as painful to listen to as baby bush, but close. You disagree, I get it, when I hear him, I hear bigotry, I hear stupidity, I hear close-mindedness. These are all signs of a lack of intelligence to me.


He's a billionaire.  He made himself president, with the entire establishment against him.  And he doesn't know anything??   Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin
  
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Reply #26 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:22am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Trump is one of the least knowledgeable people I have ever heard. He's not quite as painful to listen to as baby bush, but close. You disagree, I get it, when I hear him, I hear bigotry, I hear stupidity, I hear close-mindedness. These are all signs of a lack of intelligence to me.

If we use your measuring stick Obama is practically brain dead and a racist elitist.
  

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Reply #27 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:45am
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The funny thing is, Trump is probably 50 times more intelligent than Peon.
  


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Reply #28 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:02am
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admin wrote on Jan 8th, 2019 at 9:20pm:
- Americans murdered and raped by illegals and Democrats simply dont care

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I know, he's so stupid. Democrats have no issues with tighter security. A wall is not the most efficient. Just a bunch money that forces them to find another way in. And they will. Sad that republicans don't care.
  

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Re: - Trump's address to the nation
Reply #29 - Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:17am
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JohnnyBLate wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 2:02am:
Grin

I know, he's so stupid. Democrats have no issues with tighter security. A wall is not the most efficient. Just a bunch money that forces them to find another way in. And they will. Sad that republicans don't care.

So you agree with me that *MY* system is the only truly effective way?
  


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