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Reply #30 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:00pm
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Frank1 wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Driving force of American history since 1945, rather, when we (or rather, some of our leaders) decided to replace the declining European powers as world rulers.


The American Anti-Imperialist League was founded in 1898.
  

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Reply #31 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 12:23am
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Queshank wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
So what do you think of these reports leaking out that the troop withdrawals in Syria have actually begun?

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I saw a report that 10 jeeps left.

We shall see.
  

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Regulations are designed to protect the consumer and the worker.  If it doesn’t,it is not a regulation.



"Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.
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Reply #32 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 12:27am
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Demos wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:53pm:
That's true to an extent. However, the President also needs the cooperation of the bureaucracy to carry it out. DOD and State (as well as member of the administration) have been trying to prevent any withdrawal and are now trying to slow walk it.

In the past, there has been more common interest between the President and the bureaucracy regarding US foreign policy. Now, that doesn't necessarily exist, particularly since the President also doesn't seem to have clear, well defined views on these issues.


This is where effective leadership comes into play, a skill that Trump lacks.

  

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Regulations are designed to protect the consumer and the worker.  If it doesn’t,it is not a regulation.



"Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.
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Reply #33 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:39am
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Demos wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:37pm:
Much longer than that. Our movement west conquering and seizing territory from various Native American tribes.


I wouldn't call that imperialism, that movement was mostly driven by settlers.

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the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, taking over Hawaii, various interventions in Central America (e.g., Panama), etc. is a long history of imperialism.


Once again, Mexican-American War was very largely driven by a settlement movement beforehand with the gov't only intervening later.

Whatever happened before there is a very clear change in American policy after 1945.  Before that, our foreign wars were haphazard, after that there was a unified policy of promoting U.S. interests globally, and this is an important distinction.

If you want to call every single war that is not completely defensive in nature an act of "imperialism" than the word imperialism begins to lose its value, and practically everyone becomes an imperialist.

Like I said, 1945 marks a turning point, since which we have had an extremely powerful military-industrial complex largely driving our foreign policy, a complex that didn't really exist before 1945.


  


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Reply #34 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:42am
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Running Deer wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
The American Anti-Imperialist League was founded in 1898.


Sure, we were getting into the Philippines at that time, our first major oversease colonial experience.

But imperialism was not the driving policy of U.S. affairs that it has been since 1945.
  


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Reply #35 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:44am
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
So does this mean a "deep state" really exists?


Sure.  Its not a conspiracy theory.  Its just a word to describe entrenched unelected bureaucrats and their powerful, moneyed allies in various corporations and special interest groups.
  


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Reply #36 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:45am
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Frank1 wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:44am:
Sure.  Its not a conspiracy theory.  Its just a word to describe entrenched unelected bureaucrats and their powerful, moneyed allies in various corporations and special interest groups.


So, where do you stand on this issue?
  

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Reply #37 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:46am
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Genesee wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:45am:
So, where do you stand on this issue?


I support withdrawal from Syria.
  


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Reply #38 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 7:13am
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petep wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:25am:
Perhaps the most idiotic post of the year. America is perhaps the only country since the dark ages to sacrifice so many citizens to preserve freedom elsewhere, and then we leave, and then five millions to prop back up those defeated.



I think you have a rosy tint to your shades.

America has a long, long history of subverting other nations, to the extent of replacing democratically elected governments by corruption, violence and murder, installing brutal dictators and arming death squads.


American government agencies have meddled in literally dozens of countries around the world.


If your remark about sacrificing citizens for the freedom of others refers to WW2, then, hmm, the British suffered more casualties from a much smaller population.
  

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Reply #39 - Jan 12th, 2019 at 7:14am
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Frank1 wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:46am:
I support withdrawal from Syria.



Yeh, that's 'cos you're a Catholic  Grin
  

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