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Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:24am
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This was in the news yesterday, but I haven't seen a thread about it yet.  Trump's tweet:

"Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!"

Apart from the fact that Trump knows nothing about forest management, or the particular factors that turned these fires into major disasters, I have a problem with how he's politicizing everything and wielding his presidential powers as some sort of punishment.

If the fires had happened in West Virginia or Texas, he would have been bending over backwards to provide federal support.  But he does not like California.  They didn't vote for him, they kicked out a lot of republicans, etc.  So he is leveraging his throne (and his ignorance) to punish them.

No policy debate, no hearings, no investigation, no science, no acknowledgement that many of the areas burned are under federal control.  Just retribution.
  

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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:26am
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Trumpy the Bear is having a temper tantrum yet again.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:42am
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:24am:
This was in the news yesterday, but I haven't seen a thread about it yet.  Trump's tweet:

"Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!"

Apart from the fact that Trump knows nothing about forest management, or the particular factors that turned these fires into major disasters, I have a problem with how he's politicizing everything and wielding his presidential powers as some sort of punishment.

If the fires had happened in West Virginia or Texas, he would have been bending over backwards to provide federal support.  But he does not like California.  They didn't vote for him, they kicked out a lot of republicans, etc.  So he is leveraging his throne (and his ignorance) to punish them.

No policy debate, no hearings, no investigation, no science, no acknowledgement that many of the areas burned are under federal control.  Just retribution.


If the damned environmentalists had kept their noses out of forest management, the wildfires, if they had occurred, would not have spread so quickly and over such a large area of land.    I don't much care for California politics, but I do like trees, forests, grapes (both chewable and drinkable), lakes, forests.  not as much or as many of these would have been destroyed if the Forest Management people were allowed to do what they needed to do.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:44am
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:24am:
This was in the news yesterday, but I haven't seen a thread about it yet.  Trump's tweet:

"Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!"

Apart from the fact that Trump knows nothing about forest management, or the particular factors that turned these fires into major disasters, I have a problem with how he's politicizing everything and wielding his presidential powers as some sort of punishment.

If the fires had happened in West Virginia or Texas, he would have been bending over backwards to provide federal support.  But he does not like California.  They didn't vote for him, they kicked out a lot of republicans, etc.  So he is leveraging his throne (and his ignorance) to punish them.

No policy debate, no hearings, no investigation, no science, no acknowledgement that many of the areas burned are under federal control.  Just retribution.


Oh, well....  Cool
  

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Phillip3 wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:26am:
Trumpy the Bear is having a temper tantrum yet again.


Seems a reasonable response to the sucking black hole of a state it is, California.
  

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So.... FC, and the Fluff Boy seem to think that the fed should just shovel monies into the states, regardless. Right?
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:48am
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The environmentalist are to blame for the tragic loss of life and property last year in California, not the President.
  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:24am:
This was in the news yesterday, but I haven't seen a thread about it yet.  Trump's tweet:

"Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!"

Apart from the fact that Trump knows nothing about forest management, or the particular factors that turned these fires into major disasters, I have a problem with how he's politicizing everything and wielding his presidential powers as some sort of punishment.

If the fires had happened in West Virginia or Texas, he would have been bending over backwards to provide federal support.  But he does not like California.  They didn't vote for him, they kicked out a lot of republicans, etc.  So he is leveraging his throne (and his ignorance) to punish them.

No policy debate, no hearings, no investigation, no science, no acknowledgement that many of the areas burned are under federal control.  Just retribution.


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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:58am
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Trump had no such retribution for Texas, which does everything possible to avoid zoning floodplains.  Indeed, they are rebuilding in the same areas FEMA bailed them out of.  But Trump loves Texas, so more FEMA for Texas!

I'm leaving aside the particular details of the CA fires because I want to highlight Trump's scrupulous avoidance of process and policy.  But if it would help, I can cite how the fires were burning on federal, not state, lands, how the high winds were spreading them even across 10-lane highways, and how one of the two major fires was in a suburban area with no significant forest canopy.  Would that help?
  

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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:02am
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crepe05 wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:42am:
If the damned environmentalists had kept their noses out of forest management, the wildfires, if they had occurred, would not have spread so quickly and over such a large area of land. 



Yet another post from Horseshit Parish .^. .


California's forest management isn't the problem
  

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