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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:36pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
Exactly........solar energy, wind energy.  How do you feel about those alternatives Jasmine


Solar seems to be far better in terms of cost per kw generated.

Homes that have it installed are generally happy from a financial standpoint. But a big upfront investment and the return is over about a 5-7 year payback. I’m confident tech will get better.

We should have been far more aggressive with nuclear 40 years ago. Someone may do something with hydrogen years out, but it’s very unstable with today’s tech.

Anything that contains energy - mass, movement - presents an opportunity to convert to usable forms of energy.

I suspect 100 years from now it will be something entirely different than what we are thinking of now.
  
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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:39pm
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petep wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Solar seems to be far better in terms of cost per kw generated.

Homes that have it installed are generally happy from a financial standpoint. But a big upfront investment and the return is over about a 5-7 year payback. I’m confident tech will get better.

We should have been far more aggressive with nuclear 40 years ago. Someone may do something with hydrogen years out, but it’s very unstable with today’s tech.

Anything that contains energy - mass, movement - presents an opportunity to convert to usable forms of energy.

I suspect 100 years from now it will be something entirely different than what we are thinking of now.

Of course it will,  we just have to move the dinosaurs out of the way
  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:41pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
As opposed to  being forced to choose either gas, electricity or oil


Good point, but for one to understand that, one would have to be not as dense as a meteorite.

  

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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:42pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
As opposed to  being forced to choose either gas, electricity or oil

You’re not getting it.

No one should be forced to comply with global warming measures. If you want to do your part, knock yourself out. Just don’t force me to inconvenience myself.
  


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Ulysses wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Good point, but for one to understand that, one would have to be not as dense as a meteorite.


Well, I can try
  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Reply #15 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:44pm
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Jasmine wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
You’re not getting it.

No one should be forced to comply with global warming measures. If you want to do your part, knock yourself out. Just don’t force me to inconvenience myself.

Some people feel the same way about abortion Wink
  

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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #16 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
Some people feel the same way about abortion Wink

Abortions involve innocent lives, silly. Spotted owls and whales aren’t humans.
  


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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #17 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:05pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Of course it will,  we just have to move the dinosaurs out of the way


Comments like this show great immaturity and misunderstanding. There are tens of thousands of private companies and govts around the world investing greatly to displace traditional forms of energy. This has been going on for decades

It does not matter if someone is favoring oil or coal.

It’s like stating digital camera tech won’t catch on because some photographers favor film. Kodak whoninvented the first digital camera and did not want to see it displace film had no ability to stop progress.

When the tech makes another former tech obsolete or less favorable, the market will move to it.

Your comment is akin to jousting with windmills.
  
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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #18 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:10pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
As opposed to  being forced to choose either gas, electricity or oil


Do as you please, and I will too.

Solar 101:

For example: A system that costs $18,000 has a payback period of about 20 years. The cost of a solar panel today is around $3 per watt, and the extra cost of installation brings costs up to $5- $6 per watt. Note: Installation costs for PV systems include both labor and the electronics needed to tie the solar array into your existing electrical system.
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Re: A potential compromise on climate change
Reply #19 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:15pm
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petep wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:05pm:
Comments like this show great immaturity and misunderstanding. There are tens of thousands of private companies and govts around the world investing greatly to displace traditional forms of energy. This has been going on for decades

It does not matter if someone is favoring oil or coal.

It’s like stating digital camera tech won’t catch on because some photographers favor film. Kodak whoninvented the first digital camera and did not want to see it displace film had no ability to stop progress.

When the tech makes another former tech obsolete or less favorable, the market will move to it.

Your comment is akin to jousting with windmills.



You are right. It will not be the government that will find or invent a better source of energy. It will be some inventor or corporation. It may take a while, especially with all the abortion murders. Which one was the next Einstein?
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