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Re: Again, Why Are Trumper's Poo Pooing That Mexico Isn't Paying For A Wall?
Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 9:41am
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Again, Why Are Trumper's Poo Pooing That Mexico Isn't Paying For A Wall?


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Trump is only half way through his first term.  The new USMCA has not yet been approved.The devils are always in the details.  BTW what lasting accomplishments did Obama have after eight long years?   https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenroberts/2018/11/30/my-bet-trump-gets-congression...
  

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So why isn't Mexico paying for the wall?

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Re: Again, Why Are Trumper's Poo Pooing That Mexico Isn't Paying For A Wall?
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 9:49am:
Trump is only half way through his first term.  The new USMCA has not yet been approved.The devils are always in the details.  BTW what lasting accomplishments did Obama have after eight long years?   https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenroberts/2018/11/30/my-bet-trump-gets-congression...


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Oh...... Grin Roll Eyes But I thought the "wall" issue has arrived Grin

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Reply #5 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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To start, I don’t like the idea of a wall. The picture I get is demand is still on the us side, supplyvis in the Mexico side and the wall is barely keeping the pressure at bay. We have a legal immigration process, we have Reagan’s bill / laws that punish employees hiring illegals and not following the process. Enforce the laws.

That said. I never took what he said literally. The new revamped trade deal will generate far more than 5b. The savings in reduced jail costs for illegals (what percent of illegals make up ca jails), gang related costs (18th street gang in la, 20000 members, 60 percent illegals).

  
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petep wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
The new revamped trade deal will generate far more than 5b.

Yes but is that money from Mexico or the US consumer?
  

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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 12:34pm:
Yes but is that money from Mexico or the US consumer?


I hear you. Govt money is our money. If we as consumer pay lower tariffs on goods coming in from Mexico and have more disposable income, the multiplier says govt will end up with more tax dollars.

A bit of a shell game I agree. I still stand that I’d prefer not to see a wall. It reminds me of that far side cartoon where the dad is walking his son around the neighborhood explaining how more primitive species of animals build walls and dens to shield  themselves,,,,and the view of the neighborhood is all these houses with fenced yards.
  
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petep wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 12:40pm:
I hear you. Govt money is our money. If we as consumer pay lower tariffs on goods coming in from Mexico and have more disposable income, the multiplier says govt will end up with more tax dollars.

A bit of a shell game I agree. I still stand that I’d prefer not to see a wall. It reminds me of that far side cartoon where the dad is walking his son around the neighborhood explaining how more primitive species of animals build walls and dens to shield  themselves,,,,and the view of the neighborhood is all these houses with fenced yards.

So the new trade deal actually lowers tariffs from what they were?

How did that happen in a protectionist admin?
  

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