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Reply #10 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:16am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:11am:
The moral high ground is worth standing by, even if it costs 'wins'. For the left to fight dirty, it would become that which it fights against, the easy path, the tendency for groups to treat others as unwanted or evil. If the left did that, it would no longer be the left.

And the reality is that the left IS winning. Look at how much ground the right has lost in the last 100 years. Trump is like their last gasp of air before they drown, and they know it. Get your 'wins' now, conservatives, because it's going to be a LONG time before another Trump gets elected.


The left isn't winning.  Grin

Even though they've won the popular vote only once in 31 years, the right has stacked the courts. We still practice the ponzi scheme that has eviscerated the middle class in Supply Side after 40 years. Our healthcare system is still insurance based. Wages haven't kept up with inflation since the '70's. We are still fiddling with oil and coal. Education has been slashed making our populous dumber and dumber. Higher education is now a for profit business that leaves users in lifelong debt. The right hasn't compromised on anything since Newt Gingrich. Nor have they had to.

Seriously...where is the left winning? Because this country isn't seeing it.
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:17am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 10:51am:
It's about what the sides stand for, not the fringe within each side that may hold views we disagree with.

Take the antisemitism for instance, which as a Jewish person, I take seriously. Yes, there are those on the Dems side that creep me out, but the Dems, as a whole, are more tolerant of diverse lifestyle groups than Reps are. The Reps probably give more money to Israel than the Dems, but there is a catch; the Reps do not see a Jewish state, but a state that is CURRENTLY Jewish, with the intent to convert it to Christianity. So which side worries me more? The Reps, by far.

I would disagree, I see BOTH anti-semitism and bigotry from the Dem party.  They are by no means tolerate of either of our faith.
  


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Reply #12 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:21am
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Seawolf wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:17am:
I would disagree, I see BOTH anti-semitism and bigotry from the Dem party.  They are by no means tolerate of either of our faith. 


Christians trying to declare religious persecution in this country is laughable. Especially if you're trying to compare it to antisemitism. It's actually borderline anti semitic to suggest that christians in this country experience the same bigotry that jews do.
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:27am
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Buddy_Love wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:21am:
Christians trying to declare religious persecution in this country is laughable. Especially if you're trying to compare it to antisemitism. It's actually borderline anti semitic to suggest that christians in this country experience the same bigotry that jews do.

At least you are acknowledging that there is this sort of discrimination towards Jews.  I find that most of the discrimination tends to come from the left more then I see from the right.  Yes, there is a level of discrimination towards the Christian community, there is no denying this.  Regarding persecution, no where near the level of persecution as seen elsewhere in the world.  Christians are being murdered in the world for not denying their faith, there are ample documentation of this happening in world.
  


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Reply #14 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:41am
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Buddy_Love wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:16am:
The left isn't winning.  Grin

Even though they've won the popular vote only once in 31 years, the right has stacked the courts. We still practice the ponzi scheme that has eviscerated the middle class in Supply Side after 40 years. Our healthcare system is still insurance based. Wages haven't kept up with inflation since the '70's. We are still fiddling with oil and coal. Education has been slashed making our populous dumber and dumber. Higher education is now a for profit business that leaves users in lifelong debt. The right hasn't compromised on anything since Newt Gingrich. Nor have they had to.

Seriously...where is the left winning? Because this country isn't seeing it.


Your points are valid, but we are still the science leader in the world, we have more minority advocate groups than in any time in our history, and we are more liberal when it comes to lifestyle choices than at any time in our history. Liberals still run hollywood and the Internet, and the best the conservatives can do is try and lock it down by blocking net neutrality. Gun rights are decreasing, abortions are increasing, and if I was a conservative in the US right now, I'd be pissed. Whatever gains are being made in the crazy conservative agenda are not nearly enough.

Whereas from a liberal perspective, Trump and his conservative cronies have not really made a dent in my lifestyle or the values I advocate at all. They are trying, to be sure, but doing actually very little. The Recent Roe vs Wade SCOTUS vote is a good example. They now have their own sexual predator who will vote conservative for them and yet still Roberts shoots them down.

Just for giggles, I did a search on ideology trends, and overwhelmingly, they indicated conservatives are a dying breed. This is one species not worth saving.
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:55am
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Buddy_Love wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:16am:
The left isn't winning.  Grin

Even though they've won the popular vote only once in 31 years, the right has stacked the courts. We still practice the ponzi scheme that has eviscerated the middle class in Supply Side after 40 years. Our healthcare system is still insurance based. Wages haven't kept up with inflation since the '70's. We are still fiddling with oil and coal. Education has been slashed making our populous dumber and dumber. Higher education is now a for profit business that leaves users in lifelong debt. The right hasn't compromised on anything since Newt Gingrich. Nor have they had to.

Seriously...where is the left winning? Because this country isn't seeing it.


Just one point. Our healthcare system is basically a legal gambling game.

  

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Reply #16 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:14pm
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Ulysses wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Just one point. Our healthcare system is basically a legal gambling game.



Except the only winners are the insurance companies and Big Pharma...

  

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Reply #17 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:54pm
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A great vid of Hollywood’s liberal left reaction when convicted child drugged rapist won his best director Oscar

https://youtu.be/PXnNOBj26lk

Yes, they are all very concerned about women’s and girls rights. Sure they are.
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 10:59pm
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The democrats have really made themselves a lumpy bed. In order to not be hypocrites they need to call for the Lt. Governor to step down and they will still be wrong because once again they will be throwing due process out the window.
  

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Reply #19 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 11:00pm
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NIMBY!
  

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