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Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:26pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:21pm:
Progressives want even more regulation of the economy and given what we know about lobbying, rent-seeking, and the history of this sort of thing, that means they want to expand the power of big business to control the economy. Ergo voting for them is misguided if you are concerned about reigning in big business.

We can all imagine what a regulation in the community interest might look like.

But politics gets in the way and history suggests the result will tend to be something that will serve the interests of the few, not the common person.

Regulations do the exact opposite.  Regulations on pollution is an example.  Car safety regulations is another.  Big corporations hate regulations.
  

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:30pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:26pm:
Regulations do the exact opposite.  Regulations on pollution is an example.  Car safety regulations is another.  Big corporations hate regulations.

There are some regulations that are beneficial. I agree on pollution.

But the notion that all regulations are beneficial and that big corporations hate regulations in general, is bollocks on stilts.

Big businesses love regulations. They make it harder for the little guy to compete. And they often get to write the regs to their benefit.

Have you seen this thread?
  

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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:49pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:30pm:
There are some regulations that are beneficial. I agree on pollution.

But the notion that all regulations are beneficial and that big corporations hate regulations in general, is bollocks on stilts.

Big businesses love regulations. They make it harder for the little guy to compete. And they often get to write the regs to their benefit.

Have you seen this thread?

Big business does not love regulations.  It just that some things that you believe are regulations simply are not.
  

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Reply #23 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:51pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:49pm:
Big business does not love regulations.  It just that some things that you believe are regulations simply are not.

I bet they love patents...
  




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Reply #24 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:56pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:49pm:
Big business does not love regulations.  It just that some things that you believe are regulations simply are not.

Here is that leftwing blindspot regarding history and economics that I was talking about.

The biggest promoters of regulations are the big business interests. The biggest beneficiaries of the New Deal were the big businesses.

None of this is a secret. Nor is it terribly complicated.
  

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Reply #25 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 12:21am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 11:56pm:
Here is that leftwing blindspot regarding history and economics that I was talking about.

The biggest promoters of regulations are the big business interests. The biggest beneficiaries of the New Deal were the big businesses.

None of this is a secret. Nor is it terribly complicated.

Again, even though they appeared to be regulations, they were not.  Regulations are designed to protect the consumer and worker.
  

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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 12:21am:
Again, even though they appeared to be regulations, they were not.  Regulations are designed to protect the consumer and worker. 

So what do you call regulations which are not in the interest of the consumer or worker?
  

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Reply #27 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 2:14am
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I'm not sure how using the ACA (Obamacare) was not enough for Wadsworth. The largest healthcare companies helped write the bill. Regulations require everyone to carry health insurance. Regulations dictate that everyone carry expansive plans. The government all but took over the health insurance sector but the health insurance companies did not mind because they were guaranteed millions of new policy holders paying exponentially higher premiums and they were protected against losses by the government.
So, All Americans had access health insurance even though it was now affordable for many. They lost their doctors and their existing policies but the insurance companies were guaranteed billions.
I wonder what party the insurance companies donated to.
  




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Reply #28 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 6:48am
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 18th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
This is not a left or right problem.  This is a capitalism problem.  This is why there is a need for regulatons


Good thread tl

And that is why the soviets, Cuba etc had no corruption  in govt.
  
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Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 9:18am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 12:40am:
So what do you call regulations which are not in the interest of the consumer or worker?

Regulations are designed to protect the consumer and the worker.  If it doesn’t,it is not a regulation.
  

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