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Reply #10 - Mar 13th, 2019 at 1:08pm
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Vypr wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:57pm:
WTF are you talking about? ReeweeWittoBwain is talking ALL public offices.


Maybe Retarded Wiener Brain's buddies on the right all think the "natural born citizen" requirement already applies to all elected office in the USA, from dog catcher on up.


  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
We're talking about "public office", not "POTUS"...

sorry.  I guess I assumed that it was the POTUS and the VP we were talking about.  The Constitution sets age requirements as well as the number of years someone must be an American citizen, so I guess the issue is moot. As far as State and local governments, I think as long as they are US citizens, they ought to be able to hold office.  We certainly do not want a large number of illegal aliens being able to dictate to American citizens if they happen to gather together in sufficient numbers in one barrio or anther ghetto.  As long as they become citizens then I have nothing against any American holding state and local office, or the Federal ones, as prescribed by the requirements of our Constitution.
  

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The native birth constitutional requirement probably was in large part the result of the UK's practice of importing European royalty to staff its throne. Such as William of Orange, or the Hanoverian monarchs, which line continues to this day.

The US founders didn't want their nation run by some upper class twit from god knows where. Although we got the twit part but good with DJT, didn't we?
  

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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 1:24pm:
As long as they become citizens then I have nothing against any American holding state and local office, or the Federal ones, as prescribed by the requirements of our Constitution.


Wally ..At least NOW you aren't disagreeing with The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1 ..  Grin


Fiddler wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:34pm:
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1 disagrees with you..



  

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Ulysses wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
The native birth constitutional requirement probably was in large part the result of the UK's practice of importing European royalty to staff its throne. Such as William of Orange, or the Hanoverian monarchs, which line continues to this day.

The US founders didn't want their nation run by some upper class twit from god knows where. Although we got the twit part but good with DJT, didn't we?

When Obama was born in Kenya, it was under British rule, so that made him a citizen of the British Commonwealth, with loyalty to the British Crown.  Just sayun.  Roll Eyes
  

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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
When Obama was born in Kenya, it was under British rule, so that made him a citizen of the British Commonwealth, with loyalty to the British Crown.  Just sayun. 



I see...  In what country was the rock that you were born under?

  

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Fiddler wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
I see...  In what country was the rock that you were born under?



Apparently Wally was born in New South Ignorantistan...


  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
We're talking about "public office", not "POTUS"...

AND my question is should it apply to all public office.
  

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Ulysses wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 1:08pm:
Maybe Retarded Wiener Brain's buddies on the right all think the "natural born citizen" requirement already applies to all elected office in the USA, from dog catcher on up.



Apparently little vypr girl and you shit for brains lack English comprehension My question WAS and still IS SHOULD IT BE A REQUIREMENT.
  

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Re: Should you have to be a natural born American to hold public office?
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
The native birth constitutional requirement probably was in large part the result of the UK's practice of importing European royalty to staff its throne. Such as William of Orange, or the Hanoverian monarchs, which line continues to this day.

William of Orange was also the grandson of Charles I through his mother, Mary. His uncle was the Duke of York, and he married his first cousin (the Duke of York's daughter). So, he wasn't that foreign. So, British experience wasn't likely a factor, nor is that reflected in the record.

The issue for the Founders was foreign influence, which was debated during the qualifications for House and Senate. There wasn't a lot of agreement on this issue however. And it should be noted that the Constitution grandfathered in anyone who was a citizen of the United States at the time the Constitution was adopted, this you could be foreign born at that time (like Alexander Hamilton) and become President.

Pretty good article on this here.
  
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