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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #10 - Apr 11th, 2019 at 4:29pm
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Demos wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
Don't know why I'm bothering to update this, but here y'all go...

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And there you have it; the bs legal justification (more like, cover) for invading/going to war with Iran.

You can watch Pompeo's Senate testimony here, where he also addresses our troops remaining in Syria to counter Iran.


Don't stop updating these types of threads, please! I may not comment, or comment at a grade 3 level, but these threads are the most interesting and relevant on the boards.

The arrogance of Pompeo and Team Trump, coupled with their "Iran bad - KSA good" worldview, could easily escalate into yet another quagmire. I'm hoping it's just more bluster for select ears (both domestic and international) but so hard to tell.


  

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 11:56am
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The Revolutionary Guards Are Ready to Strike Back

On Monday, in an unprecedented move, U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration designated Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a foreign terrorist organization. The decision wasn’t entirely unjustified: The IRGC creates, trains, funds, arms, and deploys forces with thousands of fighters beyond Iran’s borders. These include local insurgents but also terrorist groups, such as Hezbollah. IRGC-backed forces are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. service members.

The Trump administration’s decision was meant to serve U.S. interests by isolating Iran. It seems not to have considered, however, the many ways that the regime can retaliate...

Even if Iran doesn’t instigate such a situation, contact between the U.S. and Iranian militaries is nearly unavoidable. As mutual threats, such as the Islamic State, lose ground in the region, the United States and Iran are entering a new era of competition in key strategic theaters—including Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran’s steadily increasing leverage in Iraq and Syria, and its growing network of proxies in Lebanon, Bahrain, and Yemen, means that the Trump administration cannot simply wish the Iranians away. Washington must find a way to come to terms with Iran on critical geopolitical issues—reconstruction in Syria, the continued campaign against Islamic State remnants, keeping Afghanistan from descending into chaos, and forging political reconciliation in Iraq between Sunnis and Shiites.

What the United States has done instead is increase the likelihood of a tit-for-tat escalation with Tehran—one that requires significant diplomatic resources to avoid resulting in a broader regional conflagration that includes Israel and the Gulf states and produces chaos throughout the region.

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Reply #12 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 11:12am
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Iran: Parliament Passes Bill to Support IRGC

What Happened: The Iranian parliament has passed a bill to support the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and respond to the U.S. designation of the force as a foreign terrorist organization, the Mehr News Agency reported April 16. The bill includes provisions to designate all U.S. intelligence and security forces operating in West Asia as terrorists and stipulates that any form of support for them will constitute a terrorist act. The legislation also requires the Iranian government to use its political, legal and diplomatic resources to challenge the United States in the region and disrupt its ability to use its bases in the area.

Why It Matters: Operational and strategic constraints will limit Iran's willingness to fully implement the law and attack U.S. forces so as to prevent them from using their Middle Eastern bases. The designations are unlikely to have a significant impact on the IRGC, although it will complicate potential negotiations between Washington and Tehran in the future and could lay the groundwork for a more aggressive U.S. strategy to counter Iran.

Background: The U.S. State Department announced last week that it would designate the IRGC as a foreign terrorist organization. In response, Tehran said it would declare the U.S. Central Command a foreign terrorist group and the United States a sponsor of terrorism.

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Reply #13 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 12:09pm
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Turkey criticizes US for designating Iranian force terrorist

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — The U.S. decision to designate Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization is a dangerous development that could lead to chaos, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Wednesday.

Speaking at a joint news conference with Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, the Turkish minister also said that U.S. sanctions were harming the people of Iran...

“When we start adding other countries’ armies to terror lists, then serious cracks will occur in the system of international law,” Cavusoglu said. “Trust in the global system will decline and total chaos will ensue.”

“Our conscience does not accept that the brotherly Iranian people be punished,” Cavusoglu said of U.S. sanctions on Iran. “Such steps put regional stability, peace, calm and economic development under risk"...

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #14 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 12:36pm
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Turkey is both a NATO ally and an Islamic Theocracy.  Even Obama had troubles with the current Turkish government.  We have far more tensions with Turkey than any of our other NATO partners (and so does the rest of NATO).

I'm not surprised of their taking Iran's side.  They are free to have their own opinion.  Turkey's kind of like what it would be if we allowed Pakistan into NATO.  They aren't all bad, but they are a major pain in the ass and not all that democratic.
  

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #15 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 12:45pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
Turkey is both a NATO ally and an Islamic Theocracy.

Turkey is not a theocracy (it's not like Iran, or even the Vatican). 

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I'm not surprised of their taking Iran's side.  They are free to have their own opinion.  Turkey's kind of like what it would be if we allowed Pakistan into NATO.  They aren't all bad, but they are a major pain in the ass and not all that democratic.

Turkey is arguably more stable than Pakistan. But this is just an example of how this recent designation could undermine our regional efforts while providing few practical benefits.
  
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Reply #16 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 4:51pm
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Pompeo: Trump 'Will Continue to Ratchet Up Pressure' on Iran

U.S. President Donald Trump will increase pressure on Iran, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Wednesday, but he declined specific comment on whether the administration would continue sanctions waivers for countries that import Iranian oil...

"I can assure the rest of the world that President Trump will continue to ratchet up the pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran so that their behavior will change," Pompeo said...

In response, Pompeo said, "We've been clear about our objective in getting Iran to zero [imports] just as quickly as we possibly can, and will continue to do that"...

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #17 - Apr 22nd, 2019 at 10:24am
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US says no more sanctions waivers for importing Iranian oil

The Trump administration said Monday that it will no longer exempt any countries from U.S. sanctions if they continue to buy Iranian oil, stepping up pressure on Iran in a move that primarily affects the five remaining major importers: China and India and U.S. treaty allies Japan, South Korea, Turkey.

President Donald Trump made the decision as part of the administration’s “maximum pressure” campaign on Iran that aims to eliminate all of its revenue from oil exports that the U.S. says funds destabilizing activity throughout the Middle East and beyond...

The administration had granted eight waivers when it re-imposed sanctions on Iran in November after Trump pulled the U.S. out of the landmark 2015 nuclear deal. The waivers were issued in part to give those countries more time to find alternate energy sources but also to prevent a shock to global oil markets from the sudden removal of Iranian crude. Three of those waivers, for Greece, Italy and Taiwan, are no longer needed because they have all halted their imports of Iranian oil...

But the other five continue to import Iranian oil and had lobbied for their waivers to be extended. NATO ally Turkey has made perhaps the most public case for an extension, with senior officials telling their U.S. counterparts that Iranian oil is critical to meeting their country’s energy needs. They have also made the case that as a neighbor of Iran, Turkey cannot be expected to completely close its economy to Iranian goods.

China, one of Iran’s largest customers, slammed the step, calling it more evidence of U.S. “unilateral sanctions and long-arm jurisdiction.” China, which relies on imports for about half of its oil, could present the toughest diplomatic challenge for the U.S. in trying to enforce its sanctions...

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Reply #18 - Apr 22nd, 2019 at 10:32am
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Iran says ready for US waivers to end, as Guards threaten to shut Strait of Hormuz

DUBAI (REUTERS) - Teheran is prepared for a US decision to end waivers granted to buyers of Iranian crude, an Iranian oil ministry source said on Monday (April 22) , as the Revolutionary Guards repeated their threat to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz, Iranian media reported...

Separately, the commander of the Revolutionary Guards' navy said Iran would close the Strait if Teheran is barred from using it.

"According to international law, the Strait of Hormuz is a marine passageway and if we are barred from using it, we will shut it down," the semi-official news agency Fars quoted General Alireza Tangsiri as saying on Monday...

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Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2019 at 10:36am
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Up until now, one of the very few positive aspects of trumpublican political dominance has been an aversion to military escalations.  But lighting up military actions has always been a favorite distraction tactic by politicians under investigation.  I have no doubt that more than one of Trump's advisors are pushing him in this direction.
  

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