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Reply #120 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:31pm
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Trump, Netanyahu discuss Iran threat, sanctions in call-statements

WASHINGTON/JERUSALEM (REUTERS) - President Donald Trump spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about Iran on Wednesday, the White House said, the same day the US president threatened to "substantially" increase sanctions on Teheran to curb its nuclear activities...

"The two leaders discussed cooperation between the United States and Israel in advancing shared national security interests, including efforts to prevent Iran's malign actions in the region," White House spokesman Judd Deere said on Thursday.

Netanyahu's office said the leaders discussed Trump's latest warning - issued by tweet on Wednesday - to further tighten sanctions.

"The prime minister expressed his appreciation for the president's intention of increasing the sanctions against Iran," Netanyahu's office said in a statement.

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Reply #121 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:33pm
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It sure looks like Great Britain is far closer to an imminent military conflict with Iran than the United States is (at least for now).
  

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Reply #122 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:37pm
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Reply #123 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:39pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:33pm:
It sure looks like Great Britain is far closer to an imminent military conflict with Iran than the United States is (at least for now).

Certainly helps that we're not providing escort ships.

However, we were close to war with Iran since the President considered then canceled a military strike on the country. And we are currently engaged in a cyberwar with Iran.
  
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Reply #124 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:45pm
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:39pm:
Certainly helps that we're not providing escort ships.

However, we were close to war with Iran since the President considered then canceled a military strike on the country. And we are currently engaged in a cyberwar with Iran.

Don't get me wrong.  I applaud the fine work of (as Mark Twain called them) "our British cousins".
  

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Reply #125 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:47pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Don't get me wrong.  I applaud the fine work of (as Mark Twain called them) "our British cousins".

You mean like their work to try and maintain the nuclear deal?
  
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:47pm:
You mean like their work to try and maintain the nuclear deal?

No, I meant their work in enforceingthe UN and EU sanctions and having the balls to step up and seize the Iranian oil taker attempting to smuggle oil into Syria.  Then the Brits displayed even bigger balls when they sent a warship to intercept the pissant Iranian "gunboats" which attempted to seize one of their oil tankers in the Staits of Hormuz!  Cheerio and Good Show!  Whut!!!   Cheesy
  

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Reply #127 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:11pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:53pm:
No, I meant their work in enforceingthe UN and EU sanctions...

I know what you meant. What I'm pointing out is that we could've done the same, i.e., keeping pressure on Iran's other activities while maintaining some control over its nuclear program.

Instead, we chose to leave the deal and exacerbate tensions to the point that Iran has now increased its enrichment and storage of uranium. In short, the "maximum pressure" campaign is a farce.
  
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Reply #128 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm
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Demos wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:11pm:
I know what you meant. What I'm pointing out is that we could've done the same, i.e., keeping pressure on Iran's other activities while controlling its nuclear program.

Instead, we chose to leave the deal and exacerbate tensions to the point that Iran has now increased its enrichment and storage of uranium. In short, the "maximum pressure" campaign is a farce.

I'm sure you are aware that the problem that this little piss ant country and the Aylatolla and the mucky muck Mullahs go well beyond their nuclear and ICBM development.  Iran is the leading state sponsor of terrorism and their military adventurism needs to come to an end before a broader war develops in the Middle East.  Obama's nuclear deal with Iran allowed them to eventually have nukes and didn't address any of their continuing terrorist activities.  The Sunni majority nations of the region would get their own nukes, should Iran ever be allowed to develop them.  Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons!  It's crazy to think they would not use them for blackmail or to actually DESTROY THEIR ENEMIES.

BTW, the Europeans were afraid of standing up to Germany, too.  (not once, but twice)
  

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Reply #129 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:27pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Iran is the leading state sponsor of terrorism and their military adventurism needs to come to an end before a broader war develops in the Middle East.

None of which has been stopped by the administration's "maximum pressure" campaign. 

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Obama's nuclear deal with Iran allowed them to eventually have nukes and didn't address any of their continuing terrorist activities.

Two things here: 1) yes, it delayed their program development, while giving outside parties oversight of it. What do we have now? 2) It wasn't supposed to address their support for terrorist activities; those were being addressed through sanctions and other actions.

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Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons!

Do you think they're closer to that goal today or not?
  
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