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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #140 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 5:51pm
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
Hard to resist the internal state when they can somewhat validly point to a foreign state as the cause of grief.

Wally, if the PRC cut off all trade with us and demanded we disarm, would we?
It's not really a question of might makes right...but, Iran's a piss ant country attempting to be far more important than they really are.  Besides all that chanting and ranting of "Death to America" ought to have a consequence of one sort or another.  Besides some of us will never forget when these asshole took over our embassy and held our Americans hostage for 440 days.  Pay back's a Bitch!
  

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #141 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:27pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 5:51pm:
It's not really a question of might makes right...but, Iran's a piss ant country attempting to be far more important than they really are.  Besides all that chanting and ranting of "Death to America" ought to have a consequence of one sort or another.  Besides some of us will never forget when these asshole took over our embassy and held our Americans hostage for 440 days.  Pay back's a Bitch!


You didn't answer the question. :/

Do they owe you reparations for the emotional distress of the Hostage Crisis?  Wink
  

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #142 - Jul 12th, 2019 at 3:02am
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
I only mention it because he is the only Iranian I know and I think he is typical of the good Iranian people who used to live in a progressive, westernized culture and now are ruled over by tyrannical religious fanatics.  He was fortunate to have got out of there at the time of their 'revolution'.

In any event, the middle East and the world (to say nothing of the US) would be far better off if the people of Iran rejected the tyranny of the Islamist Terrorists who rule over them.

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Wally you're a partisan idiot.

If the goal is to prevent Iran from acquiring nukes quicker than they would have under the agreement that we unilaterally abandonded, then that decision and the outright beligerence that we continue to show to a country that we are not at war with is proving to be an epic failure as they have decided to blatantly and publically speed up the process.


crappity smacking brilliant.  Good job.
  

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Reply #143 - Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:00am
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How Iran Sees Its Standoff With the United States

...Iran’s economic situation has deteriorated since the U.S. administration of President Donald Trump reimposed sanctions after withdrawing from the deal. Government dysfunctionalities are partly responsible for the malaise, but Iranians nevertheless blame the United States for it. They do so because they are convinced that the party that did not keep its end of the nuclear bargain was the Trump administration, not the government of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

Washington’s reversal on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), as the nuclear deal is known, has turned Iranian citizens’ distrust on the United States and presented Iranian officials with stark, unwanted choices...

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Reply #144 - Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:06pm
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So, the decision to not provide escorts is apparently being reconsidered...

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US plans Gulf naval escorts after Iranians menace UK oil tanker

The Pentagon said Thursday it was discussing military escorts for vessels in the Gulf one day after armed Iranian boats threatened a British oil tanker.

The White House's nominee to become chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, said Washington was attempting to put together a coalition "in terms of providing military escort, naval escort to commercial shipping."

"I think that that will be developing over the next couple weeks," Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee...

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UK- U.S. talks on building up military presence in Gulf ongoing, says Britain

LONDON (Reuters) - Discussions between Britain and the United States on building up their military presence in the Gulf are ongoing, Prime Minister Theresa May’s spokeswoman said on Friday amid tensions with Iran.

Relations between Tehran and the West have been increasingly strained after Britain seized an Iranian tanker in Gibraltar and London said the British Heritage, operated by oil company BP, (BP.L) had been approached in the strait between Iran and the Arabian peninsula.

“We are talking to the US about building on our presence in the face of recent threats to shipping in the area,” May’s spokeswoman said on Friday.

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #145 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm
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U.S. House passes $733-billion defense policy bill after Trump threatens veto

...The House passed its version of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, by a 220 to 197 vote, without a single Republican voting in favor of the bill and after some of the most liberal Democrats opposed it as they pushed for a reduction in defense spending...

The House bill also includes an amendment that would bar Trump from attacking Iran without first obtaining Congress’ approval. That amendment was considered key to winning enough support from the most liberal Democrats for the NDAA to pass the House.

That bipartisan amendment passed by 251-170 and prevents federal funds from being used for any military force in or against Iran without congressional authorization.

Representative Ro Khanna of California said: “Although President Trump campaigned on ending costly wars oversees, his chosen advisors, one which includes the architect of the Iraq war, and actions to increase tensions with Iran, prove he is far from living up to that promise”...

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The bill number is HR 2500.

The roll call vote on the amendment restricting military action against Iran without congressional approval is Roll Call 463.
  
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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #146 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05pm
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Thanks Demos for the post.

The usual suspects voted in the usual manner. :/
  

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Reply #147 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:30pm
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Israel PM Netanyahu blasts EU for trying to save Iran nuclear deal

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday (July 15) slammed EU efforts to save the Iran nuclear deal, saying some would not realise the dangers until Iranian missiles "land on European soil".

"It seems there are those in Europe who will not wake up until Iranian nuclear missiles land on European soil. By then it will be too late," Netanyahu said in a video posted on his Twitter account.

His comments came as European foreign ministers held crisis talks Monday on the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, after breaches by Teheran, including enrichment above the 3.67 per cent ceiling set by the deal...

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Re: WH Designates IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization
Reply #148 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 12:36pm
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Iran ready to talk if U.S. lifts sanctions, Pompeo skeptical

DUBAI/PARIS (Reuters) - Iran is ready to hold talks with the United States if Washington lifts sanctions and returns to the 2015 nuclear deal it quit last year, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said in a televised speech on Sunday.

U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration has said it is open to negotiations with Iran on a more far-reaching agreement on nuclear and security issues.

But Iran has made any talks conditional on first being able to export as much oil as it did before the United States withdrew from the nuclear pact with world powers in May 2018...

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Reply #149 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 1:00pm
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Iran Rejects Pompeo’s Suggestion It Is Willing to Negotiate Over Missile Program

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Tuesday that Iran appeared willing to negotiate over its missile program “for the first time,” in what he and President Trump presented as evidence that sanctions and military pressure were working, less than a month after the president halted a planned military strike against Iran.

But within hours of the statement to reporters, delivered before a cabinet meeting at the White House, the idea was shot down by Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, who was in New York for a meeting at the United Nations. His spokesman said that the two men had misinterpreted Mr. Zarif’s public statements, in which he repeated past demands that if the United States “wants to talk about missiles, it should stop selling weapons, including missiles, to regional states.”

It was a clear reference to American weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Iran’s other Arab adversaries...

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