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FISC abuse could top Watergate as USA's worst political scandal
Apr 15th, 2019 at 3:04pm
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By: David Singer
April 14, 2019

Attorney General William Barr’s announcement that he would be investigating alleged spying on the Trump 2016 election campaign has shocked the conflicted anti-Trump mainstream media and an increasingly beleaguered Democratic Party.

The mainstream media has known of the spying allegation for years—but did nothing to investigate it—Fox News excepted—and continues to be in a state of total denial of what could prove to be America’s worst political scandal.

Barr will be investigating whether America’s top secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) was improperly used in October 2016 and January, April and June 2017 to obtain warrants to surveil an American citizen—Carter Page—a former member of the Trump election campaign team—thereby lawfully gaining access to all communications forwarded and received by Page during the course of the 2016 Presidential campaign.

The warrants were allegedly issued on the basis of an unverified dossier on Donald Trump prepared by a former British intelligence officer—Christopher Steele—based on Russian sources (Steele Dossier)

The Court allegedly was never fully informed that the Steele Dossier was paid for by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton.


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Re: FISC abuse could top Watergate as USA's worst political scandal
Reply #1 - Apr 15th, 2019 at 3:14pm
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One can not help wondering why the FISC Judge hasn't held individuals in contempt who swore to misleading and corrupt FISA applications (five times).  Was the Judge in on it?
  

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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 3:14pm:
One can not help wondering why the FISC Judge hasn't held individuals in contempt who swore to misleading and corrupt FISA applications (five times).  Was the Judge in on it?


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Demos wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 4:15pm:

The Patriot Act is one of those balancing tests of Freedom vs. Security.  The FISA Process is part of the effort to keep us safe from Terrorists.  Who knew that Obama would politicize it and use it as a weapon against his political foes.  The world is very unsafe and these tools are necessary.  What will ensure such tools are never again misused is for those who committed crimes to be brought to Justice.  In the old days they used to display the heads of Traitors on pikes to serve as a deterrent to anyone else who might wish to do the same.

Yes, I remember the Benjamin Franklin quote but the only Muscum Terrorists he knew about were only a threat to our sailors along the Barbary Coast and Tripoli.
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
The Patriot Act is one of those balancing tests of Freedom vs. Security.  The FISA Process is part of the effort to keep us safe from Terrorists.

This isn't about the Patriot Act; it's about FISA reform. The reforms would've provided better oversight and attempt to prevent abuse, such as warrantless collection of metadata, etc. Why would the administration oppose sensible reforms to prevent abuses (if they're not just a bunch of partisan hacks on this issue)?
  
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Demos wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 4:22pm:
This isn't about the Patriot Act; it's about FISA reform. The reforms would've provided better oversight and attempt to prevent abuse, such as warrantless collection of metadata, etc. Why would the administration oppose sensible reforms to prevent abuses (if they're not just a bunch of partisan hacks on this issue)?

FISA has been around since the mid seventies, but it was significantly broadened as part of the Patriot Act.  The Patriot Act gave our FBI/DOJ and Intelligence Agencies far broader powers under FISA and tore down the wall between these agencies so they could work together to keep us safe.  Power corrupts, though!   Cry
  

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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
FISA has been around since the mid seventies, but it was significantly broadened as part of the Patriot Act.

Yes, there were FISA issues in the Patriot Act, but that's not where it ended either. Section 702 was passed in 2008. 

Bottom line - and my point - is this administration is not really serious about addressing FISA abuse, which is what makes this supposed concern so laughable.
  
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Trump's as concerned with the supposed FISA abuses as he is the border itself, not a bit...it's all about firing up and rewarding the base, IMO.
  

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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
Trump's as concerned with the supposed FISA abuses as he is the border itself, not a bit...it's all about firing up and rewarding the base, IMO.

your bias is showing.....  Roll Eyes
  

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