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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:41pm
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RWB wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
While I'm one of the bigger offenders I also notice the Right seems to hold their fellow posters to higher standards than the left does with their own. Stu is always getting called out for posting too many Racial posts or for his use of highlighter. I was called out the other day by a couple of my conservative posters. Problem is there are posters on the left that do nothing but name call yet no one on the left says anything to them. Maybe it's time to start policing our own if you want to put a stop to it.


This is a welcome,  adult post showing that RWB has a more thoughtful side and a level of awareness sometimes less than obvious.

Nicely done, RWB.


FC, I like your rules but let's not sanitise the place fully; this is a really good forum and I wish we had 20-30 more posters in rough proportion to the current crop of Cons/libs/left/colonies (hi Stu!!!).


Smooth off too many rough edges and it wouldn't be LNF. 



  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:25pm
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Excellent post, FC! I’m in!  Smiley
  


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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #12 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:32pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:15am:
These are guidelines to help improve debate here on LNF.  Follow them, or at least nod in their direction, and you will be helping our forum, making new friends, and winning people over.

1. Don't spew personal insults.
- doesn't help your argument at all
- makes it clear you are out of ideas
- feeds trolls
- encourages equally meaningless retorts

2. Don't feed the trolls.
- ignore troll-like responses
- don't honor insults or ad-hom attacks with attention
- if necessary, deploy a consistent, funny response to drive it home

3. Cite your sources
- back up your arguments
- prepare to defend your source's validity
- read before you screed

4. Acknowledge when your opponent is right
- if they got you, admit it freely
- validating a stronger position only brings you honor
- "agree to disagree" is an option

5. Avoid theatrics
- big fonts, hilites, etc usually just diminish your post
- all-caps thread titles invite people to ignore you
- political slurs ("demonrats!"  "conservitards!") also make people scroll away

6. Quality counts
- each post is a chance to contribute
- try to make at least one high-quality post a day
- look past the poo-that-gets-flung and shine a light on underlying messages, themes, and currents

These are a DRAFT.  Please help me shape them into something better!  Feedback, please!

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:21pm
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So what’s the next step?
  


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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #14 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm
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Jasmine wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
Excellent post, FC! I’m in!  Smiley


I very much doubt you will be able to observe these rules for very long.

But nice posture.

  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #15 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:46pm
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Ulysses wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm:
I very much doubt you will be able to observe these rules for very long.

But nice posture.


Isn't this ^ post a good example of what we're trying to get away from?
  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #16 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:46pm:
Isn't this ^ post a good example of what we're trying to get away from?


Nope.

But yours might be.

  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #17 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:06pm
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Ulysses wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
Nope.

But yours might be.


Nah, you clearly need to re-read FC's post. You've already broken the first guideline.
  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #18 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:40pm
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Jasmine wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:21pm:
So what’s the next step?

Just do it and see what happens.
  

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Re: FC's Rules of LNF Debate (draft)
Reply #19 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Nah, you clearly need to re-read FC's post. You've already broken the first guideline.


First guideline:
1. Don't spew personal insults.

I posted that I doubted Jasmine could follow the guidelines for very long. That wasn't a personal insult, it was a prediction of her future behavior on LNF based on her past behavior.

Then you decided to slap me with, "You've already broken the rules!!!" which itself is a violation of the first rule.

Now, I'm perfectly willing to see Jasmine (and other frequent fliers) abide by FC's proposals on a long term basis. But I've seen too many cases where one of them suddenly comes to Jesus and starts dictating how people should post nicely here. They keep it up for a few days, and then, unprovoked other than someone posting an opinion or political position they don't like, they start up with the personal insults etc. (like "liberal loon", "f*g", etc.).

Sure I sling the "right wing nut job" insult from time to time. Go with the flow, I always say. But I didn't call Jasmine any names here, just predicted she can't keep up nice for very long. So sue me.


  

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